[nagdu] discussion concerning my letter to the board of directors of Guide Dogs for the Blind

[Darla Rogers]

Dear Tina,
	While the situations may be different at Seeing Eye and Guide Dogs
for the Blind, I think consumers--that is what we are no matter whether or
not we pay a stipend for our dogs--
are standing up to be counted.
	And, while it is true TSE's board has resp0onded, unless you know
more than I do, we do not know if it is positive or not.
	I still  think it is sad that so much experience has been flushed
down the toilet; I am still concerned, too, about how effective follow-up
and consultation will be.
Darla

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tina Thomas
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:50 PM
To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
Subject: Re: [nagdu] discussion concerning my letter to the board of
directors of Guide Dogs for the Blind

There was a letter sent the SE board of directors by the graduates and the
board responded to questions both in writing and via conference. Also, staff
was made aware that there would be cut backs as well as layoffs  way ahead
of  time and most importantly, graduates are continuing to receive follow up
services via telephone and in home visits. The situation  with SE   is
totally different from what's going on with GDB. 
Tina and the girls  

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Passle Helminski
Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:40 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] discussion concerning my letter to the board of
directors of Guide Dogs for the Blind

Mike,

We should have written as soon as we heard about the lay offs.

Passle

On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:16 PM, "Michael Hingson" <Mike at michaelhingson.com>
wrote:

> Passle,
> 
> The thing is that the Seeing Eye stuff is old now.  It seems to me 
> that there is no sense in writing unless there are problems with what 
> they
did.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Passle 
> Helminski
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 12:48 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] discussion concerning my letter to the board of 
> directors of Guide Dogs for the Blind
> 
> Buddy,
> 
> I was only talking about the staff lay off at Seeing Eye and GDB not 
> about the communication issues at GDB.  Sorry I wasn't clear on my 
> last
post.
> 
> Passle
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> wrote:
> 
>> The other issue is that this latest from Guide Dogs appears to be a
> pattern of detrimental behavior eroding trust and lines of 
> communication with graduates. Seeing Eye has no such pattern, and its 
> reasons for the staff cuts are pretty clear, where GDB's are not at 
> all clear. Nor are they seeming to make any effort towards remedying 
> this. Inthis economic client, I don't think anyone would fault staff 
> cuts if they're needed, as rotten for some people as they may be.
> Again, I think there's a bigger issue at play with GDB.
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Passle Helminski 
>> <passle at roadrunner.com>
> wrote:
>> 
>>> If we sign and write to the board for this school shouldn't we do it 
>>> for
> Seeing Eye too?
>>> 
>>> Passle
>>> 
>>> On Jun 9, 2013, at 6:54 PM, "Michael Hingson" 
>>> <Mike at michaelhingson.com>
> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Buddy,
>>>> 
>>>> That's enough for sure.  You done good.  Please also sign and write 
>>>> to the board.
>>>> 
>>> 
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