[nagdu] discussion concerning my letter to the board of directors of Guide Dogs for the Blind

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Tue Jun 11 17:38:52 UTC 2013


Deanna I'm glad to hear that you are receiving services that you require from GDB however there are many many many graduates who are having major problems at this time I do hope GDB can get their act together and do the right thing by their consumers

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On Jun 11, 2013, at 6:25 AM, Deanna Lewis <DLewis at clovernook.org> wrote:

> Hi,
> I just want to jump in here and make a comment regarding follow up. Yes, I am very unsettled by the recent happenings at GDB. But, I wanted to mention that GDB did have a conference call just after the staff cuts, although it didn't really put any of the graduates at ease. But, it did answer a few questions. 
> As far as the follow-up and support from the school... For me, I still got the follow-up I needed just a couple of weeks after the changes. I was having some major issues, which thankfully I have worked out with hard work and perseverance.  I have also had very good luck with the new Graduate Support Center. When I had called with questions, I always spoke to someone immediately or they quickly returned my call. 
> Now, I know a lot of people haven't been so fortunate, but for me it's seems to be working satisfactorily for now...
> I do hope that the petition will help.
> Deanna and Pascal
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tina Thomas
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 6:58 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] discussion concerning my letter to the board of directors of Guide Dogs for the Blind
> 
> Absolutely. As a matter of fact, SE is hosting a conference call on June 15 to update graduates and answer questions and it will be the CEO who is a Seeing Eye dog graduate himself along with the Director of training and instruction who has 30 years of training Seeing Eye dogs. 
> Tina and the girls  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Steven Johnson
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 3:27 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] discussion concerning my letter to the board of directors of Guide Dogs for the Blind
> 
> Tina,
> Leader Dog did the same a few years back when the financial crisis started to impact the organization.  However, with good graduate student input and support from everyone, it is a much stronger organization now than ever.
> 
> Steve
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tina Thomas
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 4:50 PM
> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] discussion concerning my letter to the board of directors of Guide Dogs for the Blind
> 
> There was a letter sent the SE board of directors by the graduates and the board responded to questions both in writing and via conference. Also, staff was made aware that there would be cut backs as well as layoffs  way ahead of  time and most importantly, graduates are continuing to receive follow up
> services via telephone and in home visits. The situation  with SE   is
> totally different from what's going on with GDB. 
> Tina and the girls  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Passle Helminski
> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 1:40 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] discussion concerning my letter to the board of directors of Guide Dogs for the Blind
> 
> Mike,
> 
> We should have written as soon as we heard about the lay offs.
> 
> Passle
> 
> On Jun 10, 2013, at 4:16 PM, "Michael Hingson" <Mike at michaelhingson.com>
> wrote:
> 
>> Passle,
>> 
>> The thing is that the Seeing Eye stuff is old now.  It seems to me 
>> that there is no sense in writing unless there are problems with what 
>> they
> did.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Passle 
>> Helminski
>> Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 12:48 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] discussion concerning my letter to the board of 
>> directors of Guide Dogs for the Blind
>> 
>> Buddy,
>> 
>> I was only talking about the staff lay off at Seeing Eye and GDB not 
>> about the communication issues at GDB.  Sorry I wasn't clear on my 
>> last
> post.
>> 
>> Passle
>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:55 PM, Buddy Brannan <buddy at brannan.name> wrote:
>> 
>>> The other issue is that this latest from Guide Dogs appears to be a
>> pattern of detrimental behavior eroding trust and lines of 
>> communication with graduates. Seeing Eye has no such pattern, and its 
>> reasons for the staff cuts are pretty clear, where GDB's are not at 
>> all clear. Nor are they seeming to make any effort towards remedying 
>> this. Inthis economic client, I don't think anyone would fault staff 
>> cuts if they're needed, as rotten for some people as they may be.
>> Again, I think there's a bigger issue at play with GDB.
>>> --
>>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Jun 10, 2013, at 10:03 AM, Passle Helminski 
>>> <passle at roadrunner.com>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> If we sign and write to the board for this school shouldn't we do it 
>>>> for
>> Seeing Eye too?
>>>> 
>>>> Passle
>>>> 
>>>> On Jun 9, 2013, at 6:54 PM, "Michael Hingson" 
>>>> <Mike at michaelhingson.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Buddy,
>>>>> 
>>>>> That's enough for sure.  You done good.  Please also sign and write 
>>>>> to the board.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
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