[nagdu] The Differences in Dogs and Canes

Tue Jun 25 15:01:01 UTC 2013

My boy now doesn't mind waiting at all, it is as though he is waiting 
to see if the moon is going to shine.
You have to say forward then kind of wake him up for a bit.
I wonder what he is thinking when he stands in a line.
this too cracks me up.
He is still getting his confidence so I don't scold just encourage.
Original message:
> My first guide dog, Squire, discovered the cold nose on girl legs when I was
> in high school.  It wasn't long before we ALWAYS had clear sailing while
> walking down any corridor.  I suspect the practice began as an accident.
> Given the high intelligence of these dogs it isn't surprising that they
> quickly figure out this great game.


> Best,


> Michael Hingson

> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
> Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 07:20 AM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Differences in Dogs and Canes

> Oh me my Gina would put her cold nose on the legs of the ladies when we
> would walk down the out door mall.
> they would jump and the space would be opened for her to take me threw.
> I never was able to brake her from that.
> I often wonder where on earth she learned it.
> Of course I would laugh watching those walking in the spiked heels trying to
> get out of the way, hardly standing on their feet.
> But then I have a dry sense of humor.
> It doesn't take much for me to start laughing.
> Original message:
>> Carol, welcome! Yes, schools do address courtesy. But, some folks
>> don't bother to learn! I for one, will wait my turn. Sometimes dogs
>> will try to go to the front of the line though. It is up to the
>> handler not to let that happen.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Carol Osmar" <osmarc at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Differences in Dogs and Canes


>>> Hello All, I am new to the list, and am looking forward to learning
>>> from your discussions.  I am in my 60S and recently  retired.  I have
>>> been a cane user all my life, but just recently applied for a guide
>>> dog, so, I have a lot to learn.

>>> Although I haven't had a dog, I have been around many people with
>>> guide dogs, and I have noticed on many occasions, a blind person with
>>> a dog will plow his way through a crowd to get to the head of the
>>> line.  I feel this is rude.  My question is, Do the schools address
>>> the issue of curtesy to others when using a dog?

>>> I have never been in New York City,   so I don't know what it is like
>>> traveling there as a blind person.  Perhaps you would be trampled if
>>> you are not aggressive there.

>>> Carol  ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Mon, 24 Jun 2013 11:05:00 -0400
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Differences in Dogs and Canes

>>> I think a dog is much better for moving easily through a crowd.  I
>>> know plenty of people use canes in New York City, but I imagine they
>>> have to slow way down when things get crowded, or whack a lot of
>>> ankles.  Ben just slides on through, finding spaces between people.
>>> Ben is one of those "pushy urban dogs".  Crowds are something of a
>>> specialty with him, and I really appreciate that.
>>> Tracy

>>> Great point Nicole as even the best cane user would not find such an
>>> obstacle.

>>> Steve

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Nicole
>>> Torcolini
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 23, 2013 2:08 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: [nagdu] The Differences in Dogs and Canes

>>> Okay, yes, I know that this one has gone round and round before, but
>>> I had something happen today that made me just have to bring it up
>>> one more time.
>>> There is the way of thinking that says that the good cane user should
>>> be able to travel as quickly and as safely with a cane as with a dog.
>>> However,
>>> unless you wear a full body shield, I just don't think that that is true.
>>> For reasons that I will not discuss here, I was out walking today
>>> with my cane rather than Lexia.  I was traversing a route that I have
>>> taken numerous times with Lexia.  Lexia usually stays a tiny bit from
>>> the edge of the side walk.  However, as I was using my cane rather
>>> than Lexia, I was trailing the edge.  There is a staircase that comes
>>> down from a building that has a railing that sticks out farther than
>>> the bottom step.  With Lexia, this had never before posed a problem
>>> as she had cleared it as an obstacle.
>>> However,
>>> I had no way of detecting it without her; it was at hip level.  As a
>>> result, I ran right into it.  I was not hurt or anything, but it just
>>> goes to show that there are those things that a guide dog, at least a
>>> well trained one, usually detects that a cane cannot.

>>> Nicole
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