[nagdu] Update: Training Programs at NAGDU Meeting

Sat Jun 29 05:58:17 UTC 2013

agreed. my thought is so then why have dogs in the first place. It just 
didn't seem quite right to me.
the trainer i had when I got Drake my first dog told me that he didn't 
believe I would have trouble taking that dog anywhere I wanted to go and 
I chose to believe it.
On 6/28/2013 7:26 PM, National Association of Guide Dog Users wrote:
> Hmm! If convention is too stressful for a guide dog, how can they be
> expected to handle busy urban settings and other crowds? Sometimes I think
> people say what they think others want to hear and what they think sounds
> good without really thinking about the ramifications of what they say. It's
> like the old adage, "People will say what sounds good first and then, maybe,
> they will say what is really true!"
>
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Sheila Leigland
> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 8:57 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update: Training Programs at NAGDU Meeting
>
> Marion I know pilot is not sending anyone to convention. Some people on
> there staff believe it is to stressful for the dogs but we aren't even
> hesetating about bringing our two golden's  I may be going to new york for a
> couple of months so am hoping to get some idea of how Tres will handle the
> stress of a totally new situation including large crowds and noicse as well
> as experience in a much larger city than Great alls montana.
> On 6/28/2013 4:53 PM, National Association of Guide Dog Users wrote:
>> Rhonda,
>> 	Pilot has not been to an NFB convention since I have been an
> officer.
>> When I spoke with Jay Gray to invite him, he said Pilot would never
>> attend another convention because it was his opinion one of his
>> trainers was embarrassed at a meeting. I don't remember the incident,
>> but he said the trainer was asked about traffic checks and she said
>> Pilot did not do traffic checks. Apparently, the president at the time
>> was very surprised and exclaimed, "You don't do traffic checks?"
>> According to someone else that was there, this is how it happened and
>> a rather strong discussion of the importance of traffic checks
>> followed. I told Mr. Gray that I felt it was a reasonable question and
>> couldn't imagine not doing traffic checks while assuring him that, in
>> spite of the fact that our members can be very assertive, I would
>> never allow anyone to insult another nor treat anyone with disrespect
>> or in an undignified manner. Pilot has still not chosen to attend our
> conventions, though!
>> Fraternally yours,
>> Marion Gwizdala
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of rhonda cruz
>> Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 5:41 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Update: Training Programs at NAGDU Meeting
>>
>>    hello does pilot dogs come to the nfb convention.
>>    just wondering.
>>
>> On Jun 28, 2013, at 5:13 AM, Julie J. wrote:
>>
>>> Silly question...but have all the training programs been invited?  Do
>>> they
>> know they have an opportunity to speak?
>>> Why I ask is because several years ago when I was at a convention in
>> Dallas, I was speaking with a representative from Guide Dogs of Texas
>> in the Exhibit Hall.  Just in polite conversation I said something
>> about looking forward to hearing an update about their program at this
>> evenings NAGDU meeting.  The lady had no idea what I was talking
>> about.  The program was new and that had been her first convention.
>> She had planned to go to the welcome meeting for first time convention
>> attendees at the same time the NAGDU meeting was being held.  There
>> was no intent to ignore NAGDU or not provide info, they just had no idea
> the option was available.
>>> Just wondering,
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 8:17 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> ; 'New York Association of Guide Dog Users' ; New Jersey Association
>>> of Guide Dog Users ; nagdu-leaders at nfbnet.org ; flagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Update: Training Programs at NAGDU Meeting
>>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>
>>>                 Here is an updated list of training program
>>> representatives who will be attending the NAGDU meeting on July 3 to
>>> offer their input on the Guide dog Consumers' Bill of Rights.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Julie Unwin, Fidelco Guide Dog Foundation
>>>
>>> Paul Lopez, Guide Dogs for the Blind
>>>
>>> Wells Jones, Guide Dog Foundation
>>>
>>> Rod Haneline, Leader Dogs for the Blind
>>>
>>> Jim Kutsch, The Seeing Eye
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Once again, if your training program is not on this list, you may
>>> want to ask them to offer their comments to us via email. They may do
>>> so by sending a message to the address below my signature.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Fraternally yours,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marion Gwizdala, President
>>>
>>> National Association of Guide Dog Users Inc.
>>>
>>> National Federation of the Blind
>>>
>>> (813) 626-2789 (Office)
>>>
>>> 888-NAGDU411 (Hotline
>>>
>>> President at nagdu.org
>>>
>>> www.nagdu.org
>>>
>>>
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