[nagdu] [nard] The Differences in Dogs and Canes

Sat Jun 29 15:33:45 UTC 2013

No Rhonda, I also use my cane if its to hot, cold or wet to use Holly. Also, 
I might use my cane for a short run like up to the gas station or if she is 
tucked in the car so good that it makes more sense to leave her ther3e. Or, 
if I have her on tiedown and need to go to the jakes while bowling. 
sometimes its easier than unhooking her and then rehooking her up again. Of 
course, folks are different but sometimes you may choose to use the cane as 
oppposed to the dog.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "rhonda cruz" <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] [nard] The Differences in Dogs and Canes

carol, the only time you would use your cane is when your dog is sic, or had 
to go to the groomers,
 they are two times. two of them.
 good luck in class.

On Jun 28, 2013, at 6:54 AM, Carol Osmar wrote:

> As a potential dog user, I have a question.  Is it ever recommended to use 
> a cane while with your dog to locate the things you mentioned, or would 
> that somehow undermine the trusting partnership you have with your dog?
>
> Carol
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Date sent: Fri, 28 Jun 2013 07:30:32 -0500
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] [nard] The Differences in Dogs and Canes
>
> There are mobility things a cane can accomplish more easily than a dog.
> Finding the fourth sidewalk after the mailbox is tough with a dog, but a
> breeze with a cane.  Finding the mailbox in the first place is easier with 
> a
> cane.  Mingling in a crowd is easier with a cane.  Dogs just want to go
> around and will avoid taking you up to clusters of people.  As was 
> mentioned
> earlier, finding and standing in line is tough with a dog.  Odd situations
> you haven't encountered before are easier with a cane, for example the 
> weird
> steps to the curb and street that I described a few months ago.  Any
> information from echolocation from the tap of the cane tip is virtually
> nonexistent with a dog.  Getting information about your immediate
> surroundings, like am I walking past a flower bed or a giant mud puddle, 
> is
> easier with a cane.  Knowing what surface you are about to step onto 
> before
> taking that first step is way easier with a cane.  Ever take a step onto a
> brick road early on a fall morning after a frost?  It is slick and a dog
> can't see any ice.
>
> Julie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raven Tolliver
> Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 10:56 PM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Differences in Dogs and Canes
>
> Hi,
> I do not view the cane or cane users negatively.  I would never say
> that I am better than cane users as a collective because I‚m sure
> there are people who travel more efficiently with their cane than I do
> with my dog.  But apart from handlers/users, guide dogs simply do more
> than canes do.  That is a fact, not an opinion.
> It is a personal choice, just as what kind of dog, car, phone, or
> laptop people decide to obtain, or what school people decide to
> attend.  Everyone will make their ultimate decisions based on needs,
> wants, affordability, and ability to handle.
> However, I will stand firm that the guide dog is a better mobility aid
> because it has more capabilities and is more precise.  No one has
> disputed this fact with evidence or explanations.
> I understand there are advantages and disadvantages to everything, but
> that does not mean all things are on some neutral ground.  Some cars
> are better than others, some phones are better than others, and some
> foods are better than others, regardless of what people can afford,
> are willing to put up with, or are able to handle.
> I am sorry if anyone finds this offensive.  My intentions are simply to
> debate and share thought-provoking ideas, not to stir up trouble or
> cause some kind of divide.
>
> --
> Raven
>
> Original Message:
> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,       the National Association of Guide Dog
>       Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] The Differences in Dogs and Canes
>
> You obviously view the cane as negative, your posts are full of negative
> language.  You yourself have said you hate the cane.  That baffles me, as 
> the
> cane doesn't feel anything about you, one way or another.
> You are entitled to your opinion, just realize it is exactly that, your
> opinion.
>
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