[nagdu] Private club exemption

[Lyn Gwizdak]

I'd be interested in this staying on the list.  I'm curious in how this 
works as one never knows when the issue of access in a private club will 
come up.  I wonder what the sitation would be if the club member has a 
service or guide dog and what their access rights would be.  I would think 
the rights of their guest would be the same as for the member who invited 
the guest.

I would think that this might not be a huge problem as so many in our 
culture like dogs.  We seem to have more problems with people petting the 
dogs than denying access! LOL!  This is why it is so important that we keep 
our dogs clean and well behaved at all times while out in public.  This is 
why it is so important that we make sure that service dog handlers do the 
same thing.  And this is why I really get on the case of people who bring 
their "emotional support" dogs into public places when that dog hasn't had a 
lick of training or socialization.  That can cause MORE probledms for us.

Lyn and Landon
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dailyah" <dailyahpatt at yahoo.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, March 08, 2013 7:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Private club exemption


Yes.** Truly private clubs are exempt from having to allow guide dogs or any 
other kind of service do.

I'm not sure that you are actually talking about what I mean when I use the 
term private club, though. I am talking about something like a country club 
or a secret society's building) Are you talking about the kinds of 
student-run clubs that meet on campuses, but they are invitation only? (I'm 
thinking the alumni restaurant is a unique situation, so I'm not positive 
what you're asking. Apologies! If you can be patient with me and clarify 
your question, I'll do my best to give you the right answer.)

**Unless the "club" is meeting in a building owned by a University that 
receives Federal and/or State funding...I'm not positive what happens in 
that case, but I doubt the dog can be excluded from a building the 
government helps pay for in any way. I'm pretty sure that's a big no-no. I 
would need to check with the ProBoneO Program's head Legal Beagle to get a 
more definitive answer if one is actually needed.

Should we take this off-list or are people interested?

Dailyah





>________________________________
> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
><nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 6:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Private club exemption
>
>Oh, my no. I used to eat dinner there a long time ago. I was, in those 
>days, a member. I don't live there now. It makes it a nonissue where this 
>particular "club" is concerned, but my question is, if another such "club" 
>existed that wouldn't accept someone and the dog guide, or whatever the 
>service dog does, could they do that.
>
>CL
>
>On Mar 8, 2013, at 8:24 PM, Dailyah wrote:
>
>> Ah! So the example you gave was actually where you're looking to have 
>> dinner. Well, in that case, I'm glad that they were happy to have the 
>> dogs there since that makes it all a non-issue.
>>
>> Dailyah
>>
>>
>>
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Friday, March 8, 2013 5:33 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Private club exemption
>>>
>>> No, it doesn't help. This Alumni Association is a b uilding on campus; 
>>> to my knowledge it does, in fact, belong to them. Only it doesn't matter 
>>> in this particular case because they were more than happy to have the 
>>> dogs on their premises.
>>>
>>> CL
>>>
>>>
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