[nagdu] I was not excepted

rhonda cruz rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Wed Mar 27 15:29:57 UTC 2013 


 hi i apply  there.. and i didn't get in 
On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Debbie Cole wrote:

> I was a GDB denial as well
> *steps down
> 
> Debbie & Leone
> 
> On 3/19/13, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>> Oh Jenny,
>> This is VERY (explitive I won't say on the list) up!  The guy who was on the
>> 
>> committee that accepts or denies applicants is the one you do an appeal
>> with???!  Ummm, oyvey! (as Lyn rolls his eyes and looks skyward!)
>> 
>> With GDB's denials of myself and some of my friends, why am I surprised?  I
>> 
>> guess they might have changes over the years.  Guess not.
>> 
>> I'll shut up now before I piss anyone off!  Yeah, just apply elsewhere and
>> move on.
>> 
>> Lyn and Landon
>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>> 
>> 
>>> Hi Tracy,
>>> 
>>> I spoke to gentleman who handles the appeals process.
>>> 
>>> He was the one who went over and signed my denial.  also, when I explained
>>> 
>>> my situation and addressed all his concerns, it didn't seem good enough.
>>> 
>>> He told me that I could email him with the outline of his concerns, but
>>> his tone of voice basically told me it would not be met well.
>>> 
>>> I've applied to another school because of that.
>>> 
>>> Jenny
>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Jenny.
>>>> The way I see it, you don't have much to lose by appealing the decision
>>>> at GDB.  It seems like all you would have to do is send an email
>>>> outlining your arguments to GDB, as you did to this list.  A follow-up
>>>> phone call might also be a good thing.  I figure you've already gone
>>>> through all the paperwork and all, so what's another email or two?
>>>> Unless the rejection has made you not want any more to do with GDB.  But,
>>>> 
>>>> as Natasha says, sometimes a field rep gets a weird idea or two, and the
>>>> 
>>>> guys back at home base may feel quite differently. I've certainly met my
>>>> 
>>>> share of odd reps, both at GDB and TSE.
>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>> Tracy
>>>> 
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natasha Baebler"
>>>> <guidingpaws at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 3:36 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> One school in particular uses seasoned guides that aren't quite "fit"
>>>>> for a blind handler for one reason or another as ambassador dogs. The
>>>>> field rep I know who has one has a dog who has chronic uti's. ok worker
>>>>> 
>>>>> (I have worked this dog) but I so strongly feel this instructor has come
>>>>> 
>>>>> to rely on this average dog in some ways I'm not entirely comfortable
>>>>> with. Like I said, this dog is middle of the average road. The initial
>>>>> purpose of ambassador or dogs was to give first time handlers assistance
>>>>> 
>>>>> in identifying what they want in a dog or if working a dog is right for
>>>>> 
>>>>> them. It's morphed into something else with this instructor.
>>>>> I actually think highly of this instructor for their vast dog knowledge.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Personality and judgment has gotten a little rudder over the time I've
>>>>> known them. Just very different than a lot of the newer on campus
>>>>> instructors these days.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Natasha
>>>>> guidingpaws at gmail.com
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Jenny,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So sorry to hear about this.  I can't imagine them telling you that if
>>>>>> you can't walk fast, you wouldn't make it.  I believe you, but...
>>>>>> Wow.  I am only slightly taller than you are, so I know that those of
>>>>>> us who are short can only walk so fast.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also, I know some schools make a bigger deal out of how much you walk,
>>>>>> but I would say that as long as the dog is worked enough, you
>>>>>> shouldn't have a problem.  What about the people who are older or have
>>>>>> medical conditions that prevent them from leaving the house every day?
>>>>>> I know they aren't always denied dogs.  Also, when I got my dog, the
>>>>>> trainers were well aware that I was in high school and wouldn't do a
>>>>>> lot of straight walking.  Like you, I did a lot of walking
>>>>>> speratically throughout the day.  I was never told that was a problem.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Now I have a question from others on the list.  Is it common practice
>>>>>> to bring a dog for home interviews?  I was not given a random dog to
>>>>>> work with at my home interview with Guiding Eyes 6 years ago.  What is
>>>>>> their rationale for doing this?  Why does a simple Juno Walk not
>>>>>> suffice?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 3/16/13, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> i went to pilot dogs. and i got in just fine.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:29 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I was told by a guide dog school don't worry about applying because
>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>> get denied. RJ
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rhonda cruz"
>>>>>>>> <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:25 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> hi i am so sorry. hugs.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm sorry you weren't accepted. The first school I applied to
>>>>>>>>>> turned
>>>>>>>>>> me down also for rediculous reasons so I applied at a different
>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Julie McG
>>>>>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National
>>>>>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
>>>>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>>>>> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
>>>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>>>>> life."
>>>>>> John 3:16
>>>>>> 
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