[nagdu] I was not excepted

Jenny Keller jlperdue3 at gmail.com
Thu Mar 28 04:01:55 UTC 2013 

Well I find it interesting that the person that signed my form with all the excuses as to why couldn't get a dog. Was laid off today or maybe even fired. I guess what goes around comes around.
Jenny
On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:29 AM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> hi i apply  there.. and i didn't get in 
> On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Debbie Cole wrote:
> 
>> I was a GDB denial as well
>> *steps down
>> 
>> Debbie & Leone
>> 
>> On 3/19/13, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>> Oh Jenny,
>>> This is VERY (explitive I won't say on the list) up!  The guy who was on the
>>> 
>>> committee that accepts or denies applicants is the one you do an appeal
>>> with???!  Ummm, oyvey! (as Lyn rolls his eyes and looks skyward!)
>>> 
>>> With GDB's denials of myself and some of my friends, why am I surprised?  I
>>> 
>>> guess they might have changes over the years.  Guess not.
>>> 
>>> I'll shut up now before I piss anyone off!  Yeah, just apply elsewhere and
>>> move on.
>>> 
>>> Lyn and Landon
>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>> 
>>>> I spoke to gentleman who handles the appeals process.
>>>> 
>>>> He was the one who went over and signed my denial.  also, when I explained
>>>> 
>>>> my situation and addressed all his concerns, it didn't seem good enough.
>>>> 
>>>> He told me that I could email him with the outline of his concerns, but
>>>> his tone of voice basically told me it would not be met well.
>>>> 
>>>> I've applied to another school because of that.
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny
>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Jenny.
>>>>> The way I see it, you don't have much to lose by appealing the decision
>>>>> at GDB.  It seems like all you would have to do is send an email
>>>>> outlining your arguments to GDB, as you did to this list.  A follow-up
>>>>> phone call might also be a good thing.  I figure you've already gone
>>>>> through all the paperwork and all, so what's another email or two?
>>>>> Unless the rejection has made you not want any more to do with GDB.  But,
>>>>> 
>>>>> as Natasha says, sometimes a field rep gets a weird idea or two, and the
>>>>> 
>>>>> guys back at home base may feel quite differently. I've certainly met my
>>>>> 
>>>>> share of odd reps, both at GDB and TSE.
>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>> 
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natasha Baebler"
>>>>> <guidingpaws at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 3:36 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> One school in particular uses seasoned guides that aren't quite "fit"
>>>>>> for a blind handler for one reason or another as ambassador dogs. The
>>>>>> field rep I know who has one has a dog who has chronic uti's. ok worker
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> (I have worked this dog) but I so strongly feel this instructor has come
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> to rely on this average dog in some ways I'm not entirely comfortable
>>>>>> with. Like I said, this dog is middle of the average road. The initial
>>>>>> purpose of ambassador or dogs was to give first time handlers assistance
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> in identifying what they want in a dog or if working a dog is right for
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> them. It's morphed into something else with this instructor.
>>>>>> I actually think highly of this instructor for their vast dog knowledge.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Personality and judgment has gotten a little rudder over the time I've
>>>>>> known them. Just very different than a lot of the newer on campus
>>>>>> instructors these days.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Natasha
>>>>>> guidingpaws at gmail.com
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Jenny,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> So sorry to hear about this.  I can't imagine them telling you that if
>>>>>>> you can't walk fast, you wouldn't make it.  I believe you, but...
>>>>>>> Wow.  I am only slightly taller than you are, so I know that those of
>>>>>>> us who are short can only walk so fast.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Also, I know some schools make a bigger deal out of how much you walk,
>>>>>>> but I would say that as long as the dog is worked enough, you
>>>>>>> shouldn't have a problem.  What about the people who are older or have
>>>>>>> medical conditions that prevent them from leaving the house every day?
>>>>>>> I know they aren't always denied dogs.  Also, when I got my dog, the
>>>>>>> trainers were well aware that I was in high school and wouldn't do a
>>>>>>> lot of straight walking.  Like you, I did a lot of walking
>>>>>>> speratically throughout the day.  I was never told that was a problem.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Now I have a question from others on the list.  Is it common practice
>>>>>>> to bring a dog for home interviews?  I was not given a random dog to
>>>>>>> work with at my home interview with Guiding Eyes 6 years ago.  What is
>>>>>>> their rationale for doing this?  Why does a simple Juno Walk not
>>>>>>> suffice?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 3/16/13, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> i went to pilot dogs. and i got in just fine.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:29 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I was told by a guide dog school don't worry about applying because
>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>> get denied. RJ
>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rhonda cruz"
>>>>>>>>> <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:25 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> hi i am so sorry. hugs.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm sorry you weren't accepted. The first school I applied to
>>>>>>>>>>> turned
>>>>>>>>>>> me down also for rediculous reasons so I applied at a different
>>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Julie McG
>>>>>>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National
>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
>>>>>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>>>>>> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
>>>>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>>>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>>>>>> life."
>>>>>>> John 3:16
>>>>>>> 
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