[nagdu] Elevator doors

Thu Mar 28 21:40:50 UTC 2013

Some trainer said to use sighted people to help in elevators??? Huh??? Where 
does that trainer work?  What a totally crappy attitude.  Oh, I get it - 
you're supposed to take that little blow-up sighted person out of your 
pocket and inflate him like Wiley Coyote after the Roadrunner rolls a rock 
on him.  Hmmmm.

Yeah, Eve, I do elevators the same as you do.  I have found that most 
sighted people don't want to lift a finger to help unless you are a 
sniveling, helpless-acting little cute blind girl - which I am not!  So, I 
just "man up" and be independent and do stuff on my own.  If I really do get 
into a jam, well I do get help then.  Good grief! LOL!

Lyn and Landon
"Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like 
asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 8:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors

>I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS HERE. FIRST IT IS VERY EASY TO
> STAY NEAR THE BUTTONS AFTER PUSHING IT AND IF IT SEEMS THERE ARE A LOT
> OF PEOPLE COMING OFF, THEN PUT YOUR FINGER TO THE BUTTON TO HOLD THE
> DOOR OR REOPEN IF IT STARTS TO CLOSE. WHEN WALKING INTO THE ELEVATOR,
> IF IT STARTS TO CLOSE ON YOU, JUST PUT AN ARM UP TO STOP IT. MOST
> ELEVATORS AFTER ALL OPEN FROM THE MIDDLE SO EITHER SIDE WILL WORK. AND
> AS FOR THE TRAINER SAYING TO RELY ON SIGHTED PEOPLE; WELL THAT IS DAMN
> RUDE. WE WANT INDEPENDENCE OR WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING GUIDE DOGS TO
> WALK OURSELVES. SAME GOES FOR COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND BASICALLY
> EVERYTHING ELSE. WHY MAKE THINGS ACCESSIBLE AND THEN TELL US TO FIND A
> SIGHTED PERSON FOR HELP. JUST MY THOUGHTS. BY THE WAY, I LOVE DOING
> ELEVATORS. LOVE HOW TAYLOR TAKES ME TO THE BUTTONS NO MATTER WHERE
> THEY ARE SITUATED AND THEN BACKS UP TO SEE WHICH DOOR WILL OPEN FIRST.
> SHE IS A REAL DOLL. EVEN IF SHE IS CURRENTLY BEING NAUGHTY BY BARKING
> AT THE DOGS OUTSIDE. BLESSED BE. EVE
>
> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Sherri <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> They do the same on escalators too, just get off and stand there while
>> people pile up behind them.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:34 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>>
>>
>> One problem I have consistently noticed is that when you are with other
>> blind people   they go ahead and get off and then stop.  It never fails 
>> to
>> amaze me!   know one behind them can get out before the door closes.  I
>> always put my hand over the door now so it can't close and then hold it
>> until my dog is clear.  I wish people would remember they have to go left 
>> or
>> right because there is often a wall in front of you, and then figure out
>> where to go from there.  riginal Message -----
>> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:03 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>>
>>
>>>I remember having this same problem. I think the sensors are set at human
>>> waist height not dog height.
>>> I never found a good solution. And Dar is right, a sighted person won't
>>> always hold the door. Either there isn't one around, or they aren't
>>> thinking.
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:52 AM
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>>>
>>> Tracy,
>>> Seeing eye and I had a fight over this one. the lady I argued with was
>>> Kim.
>>> At this time or shall I say that time she was an apprintes.
>>> I like putting the dog on the opposite side of the closing door on the
>>> elevator.
>>> Then my back side gets hit with the door not the dog.
>>> I was forever told, seeing eye doesn't do this.
>>> I said, they do now.
>>> I was told a sighted person would always hold the door.
>>> My reply was,
>>> In your dreams.
>>> She didn't like that either.
>>> Original message:
>>>> I have been having trouble with elevator doors.  The elevators in my
>>>> office building close very fast.  I try to put my hand on the door to
>>>> stop it closing, but it's tricky to hold the door and keep myself and
>>>> Ben both out of the way of the people getting out.  Once in a while,
>>>> some thoughtful person will hold the door for me, but other times, all
>>>> the people get out and the door starts to close, so Ben refuses to
>>>> start in, wisely enough, and I end up waiting for the next one and 
>>>> hoping
>>> I can get in before it closes.
>>>> It's pretty annoying.
>>>> Tracy
>>>
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