[nagdu] Elevator doors

Thu Mar 28 14:36:57 UTC 2013

My mistake. I thought you were trying to get on the elevator and
having to wait for people getting off. You do not need to hold the
button down. Just be there to push it. That will cause the doors to
open again and start the sequence over so that you have more time. I
do not see elevators often and have not seen an escalator since
school. We do not have buildings that tall here. Actually, there are
very few that are even two stories high. I understand what you are
saying about strength though, even if itis just our fingers involved.
With my arthritis, the sinmple things are difficult while some of the
big things are no problem. Blessings. Eve

On Thu, Mar 28, 2013 at 6:27 AM, Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net> wrote:
> Hi Eve.
> I think your elevators are different from those in my office building.  The
> doors do not seem to open from the middle, but from one side to the other.
> And it seems that the side to hold is the farthest from the elevator
> buttons, so I have to quickly go past the elevator to hold the door.  I'm
> not sure if holding the elevator button would do the trick, but I could try
> it.
> I do try the holding up my arm trick, but I have to hold it across mine and
> Ben's body both.
> It doesn't seem as bad lately as it was for a while, so maybe the building
> manager has adjusted the time before the door closes.
> Happily, they're also finally allowing people to take the stairs, which
> solves all the elevator problems very neatly for me.
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Eve Sanchez" <celticyaya at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:43 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>
>
>> I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND THE PROBLEMS HERE. FIRST IT IS VERY EASY TO
>> STAY NEAR THE BUTTONS AFTER PUSHING IT AND IF IT SEEMS THERE ARE A LOT
>> OF PEOPLE COMING OFF, THEN PUT YOUR FINGER TO THE BUTTON TO HOLD THE
>> DOOR OR REOPEN IF IT STARTS TO CLOSE. WHEN WALKING INTO THE ELEVATOR,
>> IF IT STARTS TO CLOSE ON YOU, JUST PUT AN ARM UP TO STOP IT. MOST
>> ELEVATORS AFTER ALL OPEN FROM THE MIDDLE SO EITHER SIDE WILL WORK. AND
>> AS FOR THE TRAINER SAYING TO RELY ON SIGHTED PEOPLE; WELL THAT IS DAMN
>> RUDE. WE WANT INDEPENDENCE OR WE WOULD NOT BE GETTING GUIDE DOGS TO
>> WALK OURSELVES. SAME GOES FOR COMPUTER PROGRAMS AND BASICALLY
>> EVERYTHING ELSE. WHY MAKE THINGS ACCESSIBLE AND THEN TELL US TO FIND A
>> SIGHTED PERSON FOR HELP. JUST MY THOUGHTS. BY THE WAY, I LOVE DOING
>> ELEVATORS. LOVE HOW TAYLOR TAKES ME TO THE BUTTONS NO MATTER WHERE
>> THEY ARE SITUATED AND THEN BACKS UP TO SEE WHICH DOOR WILL OPEN FIRST.
>> SHE IS A REAL DOLL. EVEN IF SHE IS CURRENTLY BEING NAUGHTY BY BARKING
>> AT THE DOGS OUTSIDE. BLESSED BE. EVE
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 27, 2013 at 8:08 PM, Sherri <flmom2006 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> They do the same on escalators too, just get off and stand there while
>>> people pile up behind them.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "JULIE PHILLIPSON" <jbrew48 at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 6:34 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>>>
>>>
>>> One problem I have consistently noticed is that when you are with other
>>> blind people   they go ahead and get off and then stop.  It never fails
>>> to
>>> amaze me!   know one behind them can get out before the door closes.  I
>>> always put my hand over the door now so it can't close and then hold it
>>> until my dog is clear.  I wish people would remember they have to go left
>>> or
>>> right because there is often a wall in front of you, and then figure out
>>> where to go from there.  riginal Message -----
>>> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 12:03 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>>>
>>>
>>>> I remember having this same problem. I think the sensors are set at
>>>> human
>>>> waist height not dog height.
>>>> I never found a good solution. And Dar is right, a sighted person won't
>>>> always hold the door. Either there isn't one around, or they aren't
>>>> thinking.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of d m gina
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 11:52 AM
>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Elevator doors
>>>>
>>>> Tracy,
>>>> Seeing eye and I had a fight over this one. the lady I argued with was
>>>> Kim.
>>>> At this time or shall I say that time she was an apprintes.
>>>> I like putting the dog on the opposite side of the closing door on the
>>>> elevator.
>>>> Then my back side gets hit with the door not the dog.
>>>> I was forever told, seeing eye doesn't do this.
>>>> I said, they do now.
>>>> I was told a sighted person would always hold the door.
>>>> My reply was,
>>>> In your dreams.
>>>> She didn't like that either.
>>>> Original message:
>>>>>
>>>>> I have been having trouble with elevator doors.  The elevators in my
>>>>> office building close very fast.  I try to put my hand on the door to
>>>>> stop it closing, but it's tricky to hold the door and keep myself and
>>>>> Ben both out of the way of the people getting out.  Once in a while,
>>>>> some thoughtful person will hold the door for me, but other times, all
>>>>> the people get out and the door starts to close, so Ben refuses to
>>>>> start in, wisely enough, and I end up waiting for the next one and
>>>>> hoping
>>>>
>>>> I can get in before it closes.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's pretty annoying.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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