[nagdu] I was not excepted

rhonda cruz rhondaprincess at gmail.com
Sat Mar 30 21:34:55 UTC 2013 

 hi jenny, you will hear from pilot dogs. vary  soon.
 it only took me a ffew months.
 i got in.
 and i am happy with the school.


On Mar 30, 2013, at 11:51 AM, Jenny Keller wrote:

> Yes it does give you a sense of satisfaction. My application of medical forms were sent yesterday. 
> I can't wait till they call me with a class  date and hope there's no snafus. I don't know how long it takes to get an answer from the school. But I hope it'll be soon. Keep your fingers crossed to keep your prayers coming. Thanks everybody
> Jenny
> On Mar 28, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
> 
>> Hey, I like that - the guy gets fired or laid off! LOL!  Doesn't it give you a sense of vidication when we see someone who has done us wrong get their comeuppance!  Love it!
>> 
>> Hope things are progressing okay with Pilot.
>> 
>> Lyn and Landon
>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>> 
>> 
>>> Well I find it interesting that the person that signed my form with all the excuses as to why couldn't get a dog. Was laid off today or maybe even fired. I guess what goes around comes around.
>>> Jenny
>>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:29 AM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> hi i apply  there.. and i didn't get in
>>>> On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Debbie Cole wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I was a GDB denial as well
>>>>> *steps down
>>>>> 
>>>>> Debbie & Leone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/19/13, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Oh Jenny,
>>>>>> This is VERY (explitive I won't say on the list) up!  The guy who was on the
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> committee that accepts or denies applicants is the one you do an appeal
>>>>>> with???!  Ummm, oyvey! (as Lyn rolls his eyes and looks skyward!)
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> With GDB's denials of myself and some of my friends, why am I surprised?  I
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> guess they might have changes over the years.  Guess not.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll shut up now before I piss anyone off!  Yeah, just apply elsewhere and
>>>>>> move on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>>>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I spoke to gentleman who handles the appeals process.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> He was the one who went over and signed my denial.  also, when I explained
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> my situation and addressed all his concerns, it didn't seem good enough.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> He told me that I could email him with the outline of his concerns, but
>>>>>>> his tone of voice basically told me it would not be met well.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've applied to another school because of that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny.
>>>>>>>> The way I see it, you don't have much to lose by appealing the decision
>>>>>>>> at GDB.  It seems like all you would have to do is send an email
>>>>>>>> outlining your arguments to GDB, as you did to this list.  A follow-up
>>>>>>>> phone call might also be a good thing.  I figure you've already gone
>>>>>>>> through all the paperwork and all, so what's another email or two?
>>>>>>>> Unless the rejection has made you not want any more to do with GDB. But,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> as Natasha says, sometimes a field rep gets a weird idea or two, and the
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> guys back at home base may feel quite differently. I've certainly met my
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> share of odd reps, both at GDB and TSE.
>>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natasha Baebler"
>>>>>>>> <guidingpaws at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 3:36 PM
>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> One school in particular uses seasoned guides that aren't quite "fit"
>>>>>>>>> for a blind handler for one reason or another as ambassador dogs. The
>>>>>>>>> field rep I know who has one has a dog who has chronic uti's. ok worker
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> (I have worked this dog) but I so strongly feel this instructor has come
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> to rely on this average dog in some ways I'm not entirely comfortable
>>>>>>>>> with. Like I said, this dog is middle of the average road. The initial
>>>>>>>>> purpose of ambassador or dogs was to give first time handlers assistance
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> in identifying what they want in a dog or if working a dog is right for
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> them. It's morphed into something else with this instructor.
>>>>>>>>> I actually think highly of this instructor for their vast dog knowledge.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Personality and judgment has gotten a little rudder over the time I've
>>>>>>>>> known them. Just very different than a lot of the newer on campus
>>>>>>>>> instructors these days.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Natasha
>>>>>>>>> guidingpaws at gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> So sorry to hear about this.  I can't imagine them telling you that if
>>>>>>>>>> you can't walk fast, you wouldn't make it.  I believe you, but...
>>>>>>>>>> Wow.  I am only slightly taller than you are, so I know that those of
>>>>>>>>>> us who are short can only walk so fast.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Also, I know some schools make a bigger deal out of how much you walk,
>>>>>>>>>> but I would say that as long as the dog is worked enough, you
>>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have a problem.  What about the people who are older or have
>>>>>>>>>> medical conditions that prevent them from leaving the house every day?
>>>>>>>>>> I know they aren't always denied dogs.  Also, when I got my dog, the
>>>>>>>>>> trainers were well aware that I was in high school and wouldn't do a
>>>>>>>>>> lot of straight walking.  Like you, I did a lot of walking
>>>>>>>>>> speratically throughout the day.  I was never told that was a problem.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Now I have a question from others on the list.  Is it common practice
>>>>>>>>>> to bring a dog for home interviews?  I was not given a random dog to
>>>>>>>>>> work with at my home interview with Guiding Eyes 6 years ago.  What is
>>>>>>>>>> their rationale for doing this?  Why does a simple Juno Walk not
>>>>>>>>>> suffice?
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 3/16/13, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> i went to pilot dogs. and i got in just fine.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:29 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was told by a guide dog school don't worry about applying because
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>>> get denied. RJ
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rhonda cruz"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hi i am so sorry. hugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm sorry you weren't accepted. The first school I applied to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> me down also for rediculous reasons so I applied at a different
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Julie McG
>>>>>>>>>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National
>>>>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
>>>>>>>>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>>>>>>>>> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
>>>>>>>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>>>>>>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>>>>>>>>> life."
>>>>>>>>>> John 3:16
>>>>>>>>>> 
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