[nagdu] I was not excepted

Jenny Keller jlperdue3 at gmail.com
Sat Mar 30 18:51:34 UTC 2013 

Yes it does give you a sense of satisfaction. My application of medical forms were sent yesterday. 
I can't wait till they call me with a class  date and hope there's no snafus. I don't know how long it takes to get an answer from the school. But I hope it'll be soon. Keep your fingers crossed to keep your prayers coming. Thanks everybody
Jenny
On Mar 28, 2013, at 4:51 PM, "Lyn Gwizdak" <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:

> Hey, I like that - the guy gets fired or laid off! LOL!  Doesn't it give you a sense of vidication when we see someone who has done us wrong get their comeuppance!  Love it!
> 
> Hope things are progressing okay with Pilot.
> 
> Lyn and Landon
> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2013 9:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
> 
> 
>> Well I find it interesting that the person that signed my form with all the excuses as to why couldn't get a dog. Was laid off today or maybe even fired. I guess what goes around comes around.
>> Jenny
>> On Mar 27, 2013, at 10:29 AM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> hi i apply  there.. and i didn't get in
>>> On Mar 19, 2013, at 3:23 PM, Debbie Cole wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I was a GDB denial as well
>>>> *steps down
>>>> 
>>>> Debbie & Leone
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/19/13, Lyn Gwizdak <linda.gwizdak at cox.net> wrote:
>>>>> Oh Jenny,
>>>>> This is VERY (explitive I won't say on the list) up!  The guy who was on the
>>>>> 
>>>>> committee that accepts or denies applicants is the one you do an appeal
>>>>> with???!  Ummm, oyvey! (as Lyn rolls his eyes and looks skyward!)
>>>>> 
>>>>> With GDB's denials of myself and some of my friends, why am I surprised?  I
>>>>> 
>>>>> guess they might have changes over the years.  Guess not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I'll shut up now before I piss anyone off!  Yeah, just apply elsewhere and
>>>>> move on.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Lyn and Landon
>>>>> "Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like
>>>>> asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Jenny Keller" <jlperdue3 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, March 18, 2013 7:34 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Tracy,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I spoke to gentleman who handles the appeals process.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He was the one who went over and signed my denial.  also, when I explained
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> my situation and addressed all his concerns, it didn't seem good enough.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> He told me that I could email him with the outline of his concerns, but
>>>>>> his tone of voice basically told me it would not be met well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've applied to another school because of that.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jenny
>>>>>> On Mar 18, 2013, at 7:37 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Jenny.
>>>>>>> The way I see it, you don't have much to lose by appealing the decision
>>>>>>> at GDB.  It seems like all you would have to do is send an email
>>>>>>> outlining your arguments to GDB, as you did to this list.  A follow-up
>>>>>>> phone call might also be a good thing.  I figure you've already gone
>>>>>>> through all the paperwork and all, so what's another email or two?
>>>>>>> Unless the rejection has made you not want any more to do with GDB. But,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> as Natasha says, sometimes a field rep gets a weird idea or two, and the
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> guys back at home base may feel quite differently. I've certainly met my
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> share of odd reps, both at GDB and TSE.
>>>>>>> Just my 2 cents.
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natasha Baebler"
>>>>>>> <guidingpaws at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, March 17, 2013 3:36 PM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> One school in particular uses seasoned guides that aren't quite "fit"
>>>>>>>> for a blind handler for one reason or another as ambassador dogs. The
>>>>>>>> field rep I know who has one has a dog who has chronic uti's. ok worker
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (I have worked this dog) but I so strongly feel this instructor has come
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> to rely on this average dog in some ways I'm not entirely comfortable
>>>>>>>> with. Like I said, this dog is middle of the average road. The initial
>>>>>>>> purpose of ambassador or dogs was to give first time handlers assistance
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> in identifying what they want in a dog or if working a dog is right for
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> them. It's morphed into something else with this instructor.
>>>>>>>> I actually think highly of this instructor for their vast dog knowledge.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Personality and judgment has gotten a little rudder over the time I've
>>>>>>>> known them. Just very different than a lot of the newer on campus
>>>>>>>> instructors these days.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Natasha
>>>>>>>> guidingpaws at gmail.com
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2013, at 10:48 PM, Julie McGinnity <kaybaycar at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi Jenny,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So sorry to hear about this.  I can't imagine them telling you that if
>>>>>>>>> you can't walk fast, you wouldn't make it.  I believe you, but...
>>>>>>>>> Wow.  I am only slightly taller than you are, so I know that those of
>>>>>>>>> us who are short can only walk so fast.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Also, I know some schools make a bigger deal out of how much you walk,
>>>>>>>>> but I would say that as long as the dog is worked enough, you
>>>>>>>>> shouldn't have a problem.  What about the people who are older or have
>>>>>>>>> medical conditions that prevent them from leaving the house every day?
>>>>>>>>> I know they aren't always denied dogs.  Also, when I got my dog, the
>>>>>>>>> trainers were well aware that I was in high school and wouldn't do a
>>>>>>>>> lot of straight walking.  Like you, I did a lot of walking
>>>>>>>>> speratically throughout the day.  I was never told that was a problem.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Now I have a question from others on the list.  Is it common practice
>>>>>>>>> to bring a dog for home interviews?  I was not given a random dog to
>>>>>>>>> work with at my home interview with Guiding Eyes 6 years ago.  What is
>>>>>>>>> their rationale for doing this?  Why does a simple Juno Walk not
>>>>>>>>> suffice?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 3/16/13, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> i went to pilot dogs. and i got in just fine.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 15, 2013, at 3:29 PM, RJ Sandefur wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I was told by a guide dog school don't worry about applying because
>>>>>>>>>>> I'd
>>>>>>>>>>> get denied. RJ
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "rhonda cruz"
>>>>>>>>>>> <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>>>>>>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, March 15, 2013 6:25 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] I was not excepted
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> hi i am so sorry. hugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mar 14, 2013, at 9:30 PM, Sheila Leigland wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, I'm sorry you weren't accepted. The first school I applied to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> turned
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me down also for rediculous reasons so I applied at a different
>>>>>>>>>>>>> school.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sheila Leigland
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Julie McG
>>>>>>>>> National Association of Guide dog Users board member,  National
>>>>>>>>> Federation of the Blind performing arts division secretary,
>>>>>>>>> Missouri Association of Guide dog Users President,
>>>>>>>>> and Guiding Eyes for the Blind graduate 2008
>>>>>>>>> "For God so loved the world that he gave his only Son, so that
>>>>>>>>> everyone who believes in him may not perish but may have eternal
>>>>>>>>> life."
>>>>>>>>> John 3:16
>>>>>>>>> 
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