[nagdu] Greeting in Harness WAS Re: am proud of my four-legged furry son

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Fri May 10 03:38:35 UTC 2013


Mitsy is a poodle!  They don't listen to anyone unless they want too!  Holly 
is only half poodle and I get enough of that! I wouldn't have them any other 
way!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tami Jarvis" <tami at poodlemutt.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 10:37 PM
Subject: [nagdu] Greeting in Harness WAS Re: am proud of my four-legged 
furry son


> Debbie,
>
> It's so cool how well you and Leone are doing with that. Now, if you can 
> have a few words with Mitzi about kitty distractions? /grin/
>
> Sarah, I know how easy it is. especially at first, to let your dog get 
> into greeting other dogs, since it seems harmless... I've been guilty, 
> then wondered why my dog was being a brat... Oh. Then again, just a day 
> ago, I myself was dog distracted by a labbie puppy... Dog's trained; I am 
> not! /lol/
>
> Since I use positive reinforcement, complete with food reward, which 
> you've mentioned your trainer has told you not to do, I don't have much to 
> offer in terms of how I've worked with Mitzi on distraction issues. I 
> redirect and move her forward, which is what works best with her, then I 
> click and treat! Or just praise now, since she's an old hand. That's when 
> I don't get dog distracted myself, of course. Sigh. With kitties, I have 
> to do the whole trainer routine, since apparently we cannot take a 
> leisurely walk around the block without kitties coming up to us to greet 
> the dog. Gotta love country life. /lol/ But Mitzi adores kitties, so when 
> they come to touch noses with her, it kinda unravels her brains.
>
> What Debbie says about getting the dog's attention on you and maybe doing 
> obedience exercises to help refocus and calm the dog works really well, 
> too, especially since it sounds like that is the way your dog was trained. 
> It may seem like you're having to do a lot of it at first to get Wizard 
> back into remembering to stay on task so that you can just keep going.
>
> Tami
>
>
>
> On 05/09/2013 07:08 PM, Debbie Cole wrote:
>> This kind of behavior is what caused Leone to lunge at my neighbors
>> poodle.  But since this last incident more than a year ago where she
>> lunged and I was pulled to the ground breaking my nose and getting my
>> face all bloodied and cut up  from the asphault.  Here's how I ahve
>> learned to ahndle dog or cat distractions.  when in harness I
>> constantly talk to her.  Using commands she know.  she obeys me fully
>> in harness.  Make Wizard do a sit and "down" if you practice the
>> commands that we were taught he should obey always.  Leone does.  Even
>> though her eyes are riveted on the other dog she obeys.  I might coax
>> her to the other direction.  Distractions is a big issue with us but i
>> have had no further falls since this.  she is a strong girl at 70 lbs.
>>   And I am jsut 4'11". I also remind her constantly "who's the boss"
>>
>> On 5/9/13, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> HELLO list,
>>> If Wizard sees another dog, whether he knows the dog or not, he
>>> acts as if he's not even in hness! He is definetely not calm.  I
>>> don't think he would ever ignore another dog and I'm not sure how
>>> to correct this.
>>>
>>> Sarah and Wizard
>>>
>>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Date sent: Thu, 9 May 2013 10:12:17 -0500
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] am proud of my four-legged furry son
>>>
>>> Well, you sure can't know this until you have tried it.  Fisher
>>> is calm, and he loves other dogs, but the ones he doesn't know,
>>> he blusters about, and that doesn't go over real well.  LOL.
>>>
>>> Cindy Lou
>>>
>>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Sheila Leigland
>>> <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>   hi cindy I understand where you are coming from.  We'll be going
>>> to national for the first time with dogs and I'm not going to
>>> promise perfect behavior but I will do everything that I can to
>>> keep Tres under good control and that is the best that I can do.
>>> I don't know how our dogs will react to multiple dogs all that I
>>> can do is the best that I can to see that
>>>   tres is as calm as posible.
>>>   On 5/9/2013 8:45 AM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>>>   I kind of dislike  the judgmental attitude.  First of all, Pits
>>> are n ot by name mean and/or evil.  It is interesting what
>>> Officer Paul said about Labs, or what it the lady.  Second, the
>>> judgment that the owner left because they knew they were in the
>>> wrong is judgmental, and that the dogs weren't licensed or
>>> up-to-date on shots is something you really do not know.  The
>>> owner may have left to get the dogs out of the situation.  That's
>>> what I would have done.  The judgmental is why I'm not bringing
>>> my dog to convention this year.  He growls/barks at dogs who are
>>> unknown to him.  On those occasions when he got away, nothing
>>> else transpires.  Mostly, he hasn't.  He sounds mean though, and
>>> I get that this is frightening.  However, the reaction is that
>>> people assume that I don't have him under control.  Not so.  But
>>> this year I won't subject myself to it.  It was just too
>>> stressful, which isn't really so good for the dog.
>>>
>>>   Thanks.
>>>
>>>   Cindy Lou
>>>    On May 9, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Sheila Leigland
>>> <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Megan that was my first thought also.  I would have no idea
>>> about whether the dogs around here have up to date shots and
>>> licenses but I wouldn't presume that they didn't.
>>>   On 5/9/2013 7:56 AM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>>>   I am curious how you know those dogs were not up to date on
>>> shots or licenses.  Good thing they were on leash.  At least said
>>> owner did manage to keep them from you.  I understand your
>>> frustration, but it is also unfair to assume that poorly
>>> socialized dogs are not cared for in any way.  I think that most
>>> people do mean well for their dogs.  The fact that this person
>>> was out with his or her dogs on leash means he was already a bit
>>> better of a handler than some...at least he walks his dogs, and
>>> hopefully in future, the dogs will be better controled or muzzled
>>> if they cannot be contr
>>>
>>>   Meghan
>>>   On 5/9/2013 8:49 AM, Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire
>>> wrote:
>>>   Hi, all,
>>>   Sub says it all.
>>>   I took Odie down to the Municipal Animal Shelter yesterday and
>>> am proud of my four-legged furry son.
>>>   There were a few dogs that came in and one leaving the shelter.
>>>   He remained  still each time a dog came in with its owner.
>>>   I praised him with a good boy upon patting his head and giving
>>> him a massage behind his ears.
>>>   The dog that left the shelter was a pit bull terior with a blue
>>> nose or mouth.
>>>   Thankfully, there was an animal control officer on hand if
>>> something were to happen which luckily, nothing did.
>>>   Now to the part of speaking with the animal control officer.
>>>   I did let her know what happened with Odie and I Sunday evening
>>> and despite that we weren't bit, she still considered the
>>> incident an attack.
>>>   She told me they plan to have animal control officer sweep the
>>> area more offten of where the incident happened.
>>>   I also had to mention to her that Odie and I's good friends
>>> Natalie and Liam were harassed at 38th and Clay and she informed
>>> me they would do the same thing out there as well.
>>>   Officer Paul told me due to how the animal control laws are done
>>> for the whole state of Colorado, not just counties and towns but
>>> the whole state, they can only educated the dog owners the first
>>> time as far as letting owners know their dog needs to be on leash
>>> at all times, but keeping them under control by keeping the dog
>>> closer to them.
>>>   I also let Officer Paul know how our 311 agency workers aren't
>>> being very helpful to those that are blind with guide/assistance
>>> dogs.
>>>   She suggested for me to get Diane Evans who I had good luck with
>>> last year and just yesterday.
>>>   Another suggestion was that if I wasn't able to get Dian Evans
>>> and wound up with an agent that decided to be a brat, request a
>>> supervisor and if not, then contact the police department.
>>>   Officer Paul did let me know that if Odie and I are attacked
>>> again, to immediately call 9 1 1 if we both end up getting
>>> injured requiring medical attention for both of us.
>>>   Something somewhat shocking I learned is that in the Denver
>>> County area amongst dog bites, labradors have been known for it.
>>>   When Officer Paul and I were talking, I expressed how majority
>>> of the attacks on people and dogs can be avoided if only people
>>> would take the time ti train their dogs properly and stay on top
>>> of them.
>>>   Going back to the owner and dogs that were responsible for
>>> charging Odie and I, I mentionted to animal control that I did
>>> immediately call the police department, letting them know that if
>>> an officer were to circle the area, they probably wouldn't see
>>> that owner and dogs because the owner knew dog gone well he was
>>> in the wrong upon his dogs not being licensed or having
>>> vaccinations up to date.
>>>   The owner knows if they stick around, they're going to
>>> automatically be fined.
>>>   The officer definitely agreed with me on that one and it's
>>> become a more growing trend.
>>>   Denver county Animal Control works along beside the police
>>> department and that if an attack occurs on a human or service dog
>>> team, they immediately dispatch an animal control officer out
>>> quickly.
>>>   i'm happy I did get somewhere and my hopes are that the attacks
>>> on humans and working dogs will cut down more.
>>>   I also wanted to let those with working dogs know there is a web
>>> site that you can register with in regards of dog bites.
>>>   I found it a good resource and will finish confirming to get
>>> newsletters from them.
>>>   The web site is:
>>>   http://www.dogbite.org
>>>   I encourage may to visit that site, but if those who have been
>>> injured by dogs, I can understand why he/she wouldn't be
>>> comfortable doing so.
>>>   I just thought to offer that information.
>>>   Well, guess I'll end right here.
>>>   Sorry for the long, message.
>>>   I just wanted to update everyone on how things went yesterday
>>> and that I made some good progress.
>>>   Bibi and son Odie
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