[nagdu] Greeting in Harness WAS Re: am proud of my four-legged furry son
Tami Jarvis
tami at poodlemutt.com
Fri May 10 02:37:07 UTC 2013
Debbie,
It's so cool how well you and Leone are doing with that. Now, if you can
have a few words with Mitzi about kitty distractions? /grin/
Sarah, I know how easy it is. especially at first, to let your dog get
into greeting other dogs, since it seems harmless... I've been guilty,
then wondered why my dog was being a brat... Oh. Then again, just a day
ago, I myself was dog distracted by a labbie puppy... Dog's trained; I
am not! /lol/
Since I use positive reinforcement, complete with food reward, which
you've mentioned your trainer has told you not to do, I don't have much
to offer in terms of how I've worked with Mitzi on distraction issues. I
redirect and move her forward, which is what works best with her, then I
click and treat! Or just praise now, since she's an old hand. That's
when I don't get dog distracted myself, of course. Sigh. With kitties, I
have to do the whole trainer routine, since apparently we cannot take a
leisurely walk around the block without kitties coming up to us to greet
the dog. Gotta love country life. /lol/ But Mitzi adores kitties, so
when they come to touch noses with her, it kinda unravels her brains.
What Debbie says about getting the dog's attention on you and maybe
doing obedience exercises to help refocus and calm the dog works really
well, too, especially since it sounds like that is the way your dog was
trained. It may seem like you're having to do a lot of it at first to
get Wizard back into remembering to stay on task so that you can just
keep going.
Tami
On 05/09/2013 07:08 PM, Debbie Cole wrote:
> This kind of behavior is what caused Leone to lunge at my neighbors
> poodle. But since this last incident more than a year ago where she
> lunged and I was pulled to the ground breaking my nose and getting my
> face all bloodied and cut up from the asphault. Here's how I ahve
> learned to ahndle dog or cat distractions. when in harness I
> constantly talk to her. Using commands she know. she obeys me fully
> in harness. Make Wizard do a sit and "down" if you practice the
> commands that we were taught he should obey always. Leone does. Even
> though her eyes are riveted on the other dog she obeys. I might coax
> her to the other direction. Distractions is a big issue with us but i
> have had no further falls since this. she is a strong girl at 70 lbs.
> And I am jsut 4'11". I also remind her constantly "who's the boss"
>
> On 5/9/13, Sarah <coastergirl92 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> HELLO list,
>> If Wizard sees another dog, whether he knows the dog or not, he
>> acts as if he's not even in hness! He is definetely not calm. I
>> don't think he would ever ignore another dog and I'm not sure how
>> to correct this.
>>
>> Sarah and Wizard
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Cindy Ray <cindyray at gmail.com
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Date sent: Thu, 9 May 2013 10:12:17 -0500
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] am proud of my four-legged furry son
>>
>> Well, you sure can't know this until you have tried it. Fisher
>> is calm, and he loves other dogs, but the ones he doesn't know,
>> he blusters about, and that doesn't go over real well. LOL.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>>
>> On May 9, 2013, at 10:05 AM, Sheila Leigland
>> <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:
>>
>> hi cindy I understand where you are coming from. We'll be going
>> to national for the first time with dogs and I'm not going to
>> promise perfect behavior but I will do everything that I can to
>> keep Tres under good control and that is the best that I can do.
>> I don't know how our dogs will react to multiple dogs all that I
>> can do is the best that I can to see that
>> tres is as calm as posible.
>> On 5/9/2013 8:45 AM, Cindy Ray wrote:
>> I kind of dislike the judgmental attitude. First of all, Pits
>> are n ot by name mean and/or evil. It is interesting what
>> Officer Paul said about Labs, or what it the lady. Second, the
>> judgment that the owner left because they knew they were in the
>> wrong is judgmental, and that the dogs weren't licensed or
>> up-to-date on shots is something you really do not know. The
>> owner may have left to get the dogs out of the situation. That's
>> what I would have done. The judgmental is why I'm not bringing
>> my dog to convention this year. He growls/barks at dogs who are
>> unknown to him. On those occasions when he got away, nothing
>> else transpires. Mostly, he hasn't. He sounds mean though, and
>> I get that this is frightening. However, the reaction is that
>> people assume that I don't have him under control. Not so. But
>> this year I won't subject myself to it. It was just too
>> stressful, which isn't really so good for the dog.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Cindy Lou
>> On May 9, 2013, at 9:36 AM, Sheila Leigland
>> <sleigland at bresnan.net> wrote:
>>
>> Megan that was my first thought also. I would have no idea
>> about whether the dogs around here have up to date shots and
>> licenses but I wouldn't presume that they didn't.
>> On 5/9/2013 7:56 AM, Meghan Whalen wrote:
>> I am curious how you know those dogs were not up to date on
>> shots or licenses. Good thing they were on leash. At least said
>> owner did manage to keep them from you. I understand your
>> frustration, but it is also unfair to assume that poorly
>> socialized dogs are not cared for in any way. I think that most
>> people do mean well for their dogs. The fact that this person
>> was out with his or her dogs on leash means he was already a bit
>> better of a handler than some...at least he walks his dogs, and
>> hopefully in future, the dogs will be better controled or muzzled
>> if they cannot be contr
>>
>> Meghan
>> On 5/9/2013 8:49 AM, Criminal Justice Major Extraordinaire
>> wrote:
>> Hi, all,
>> Sub says it all.
>> I took Odie down to the Municipal Animal Shelter yesterday and
>> am proud of my four-legged furry son.
>> There were a few dogs that came in and one leaving the shelter.
>> He remained still each time a dog came in with its owner.
>> I praised him with a good boy upon patting his head and giving
>> him a massage behind his ears.
>> The dog that left the shelter was a pit bull terior with a blue
>> nose or mouth.
>> Thankfully, there was an animal control officer on hand if
>> something were to happen which luckily, nothing did.
>> Now to the part of speaking with the animal control officer.
>> I did let her know what happened with Odie and I Sunday evening
>> and despite that we weren't bit, she still considered the
>> incident an attack.
>> She told me they plan to have animal control officer sweep the
>> area more offten of where the incident happened.
>> I also had to mention to her that Odie and I's good friends
>> Natalie and Liam were harassed at 38th and Clay and she informed
>> me they would do the same thing out there as well.
>> Officer Paul told me due to how the animal control laws are done
>> for the whole state of Colorado, not just counties and towns but
>> the whole state, they can only educated the dog owners the first
>> time as far as letting owners know their dog needs to be on leash
>> at all times, but keeping them under control by keeping the dog
>> closer to them.
>> I also let Officer Paul know how our 311 agency workers aren't
>> being very helpful to those that are blind with guide/assistance
>> dogs.
>> She suggested for me to get Diane Evans who I had good luck with
>> last year and just yesterday.
>> Another suggestion was that if I wasn't able to get Dian Evans
>> and wound up with an agent that decided to be a brat, request a
>> supervisor and if not, then contact the police department.
>> Officer Paul did let me know that if Odie and I are attacked
>> again, to immediately call 9 1 1 if we both end up getting
>> injured requiring medical attention for both of us.
>> Something somewhat shocking I learned is that in the Denver
>> County area amongst dog bites, labradors have been known for it.
>> When Officer Paul and I were talking, I expressed how majority
>> of the attacks on people and dogs can be avoided if only people
>> would take the time ti train their dogs properly and stay on top
>> of them.
>> Going back to the owner and dogs that were responsible for
>> charging Odie and I, I mentionted to animal control that I did
>> immediately call the police department, letting them know that if
>> an officer were to circle the area, they probably wouldn't see
>> that owner and dogs because the owner knew dog gone well he was
>> in the wrong upon his dogs not being licensed or having
>> vaccinations up to date.
>> The owner knows if they stick around, they're going to
>> automatically be fined.
>> The officer definitely agreed with me on that one and it's
>> become a more growing trend.
>> Denver county Animal Control works along beside the police
>> department and that if an attack occurs on a human or service dog
>> team, they immediately dispatch an animal control officer out
>> quickly.
>> i'm happy I did get somewhere and my hopes are that the attacks
>> on humans and working dogs will cut down more.
>> I also wanted to let those with working dogs know there is a web
>> site that you can register with in regards of dog bites.
>> I found it a good resource and will finish confirming to get
>> newsletters from them.
>> The web site is:
>> http://www.dogbite.org
>> I encourage may to visit that site, but if those who have been
>> injured by dogs, I can understand why he/she wouldn't be
>> comfortable doing so.
>> I just thought to offer that information.
>> Well, guess I'll end right here.
>> Sorry for the long, message.
>> I just wanted to update everyone on how things went yesterday
>> and that I made some good progress.
>> Bibi and son Odie
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