[nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies

blind411 blind411 at verizon.net
Sat May 18 12:46:15 UTC 2013 

Since we cannot be denied service because of our guide dogs, it is best to
not advise them of this fact in advance. Advanced notification causes more
discrimination than it resolves. If you want to wait forever for a taxicab,
let the dispatcher know you have a guide dog. If you want to make sure you
don't get discriminated against, deal with the issue when it arises rather
than create the issue by advanced notification. Also, if you learn that your
name, number, or address is flagged in a taxicab company's system as having
a guide dog and this information seems to be the reason you are not getting
equal benefits, it is a vilation of the ADA.

Fraternally yours,
Marion


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:32 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies

I have had drivers tell me that I should have said that I had a dog in case
the driver had allergies. I said I was not required to and didn't intend to
start. I don't think he liked me. One night a driver told me the dog
couldn't get so close to him in his van. He kept babbling about it, and I
told him if he would get on with the trip home from the airports, we would
be out of his cab and he wouldn't have to worry about it anymore. I got home
not so much later.

CL

On May 17, 2013, at 6:01 PM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:

> hi marry, i did have a cab driver.
> told me once.
> that he couldn't have my dog in his cab.
> but i stayed calm.
> and ordered a another cab. to drive me to my appointmentt.
> 
> 
> On May 17, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Mary Wurtzel wrote:
> 
>> I had my first  experience with someone who was allergic to dogs on a 
>> bus today.
>> The lady insisted on standing up at the front of the bus.  I didn't 
>> know anything else I could do except to let her be.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>> Carcione
>> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:10 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>> 
>> Indeed it is, but I rather like New Journey!
>> Tracy
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:36 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>> 
>> 
>>> Isn't it the New Jersey Guide Dog Users?
>>> 
>>> CL
>>> 
>>> On May 16, 2013, at 7:18 AM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> 
>>>> hi krystal,  that is the new journey guide dog users,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On May 15, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Christel Sogenbits wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hey!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Maybe it is  a very stupid question but what is NJAGDU?
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tervitades / With greetings
>>>>> Christel Sogenbits
>>>>> GSM: +372 58 440 521
>>>>> E-mail: christel.chrissu at gmail.com
>>>>> Skype: christel.chrissu
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>>>> Carcione
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:51 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>> Users
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Trish Ebel posted this info to the NJAGDU list, and Marion asked 
>>>>> that it
>> 
>>>>> be
>>>>> forwarded here as well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: Njagdu [mailto:njagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Trish 
>>>>> Ebel
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>> To: New Jersey Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>> Subject: [Njagdu] Interesting information that may be helpful to 
>>>>> someone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> While working with one of the Bergen county school districts we 
>>>>> came across this problem, so I just wanted to share some helpful
information.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> In a situation where one student is allergic to dogs and another 
>>>>> uses a service dog, the student using the service animal should be 
>>>>> accommodated.
>>>>> However, there needs to be some thought given to the student with 
>>>>> allergies.
>>>>> 
>>>>> When they are in a class together, they should be spacially separated.

>>>>> Here
>>>>> is just such an idea from the Department of Justice's document, 
>>>>> Revised ADA Requirements; Service Animals. This is in regard to 
>>>>> the new regulations published in 2010.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> a.. Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying 
>>>>> access or
>>>>> 
>>>>> refusing service to people using service animals. When a person 
>>>>> who is allergic to dog dander and a person who uses a service 
>>>>> animal must spend time in the same room or facility, for example, 
>>>>> in a school classroom or
>> 
>>>>> at
>>>>> a homeless shelter, they both should be accommodated by assigning 
>>>>> them, if possible, to different locations within the room or 
>>>>> different rooms in the facility.
>>>>> http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The Job Accommodation Network has suggestions for this kind of 
>>>>> scenario in the workplace. Some of those ideas would not and 
>>>>> cannot work in a school setting, but some of them might help to 
>>>>> improve the situation. For example, perhaps a portable air 
>>>>> purifier could be used in the class room and/or a HEPA filter 
>>>>> could be used for the ventilation system for that room.
>>>>> Also,
>>>>> perhaps the student with the service animal could agree to use a 
>>>>> dander control product from the veterinarian or local pet store. 
>>>>> The school could also make for certain that the class room is 
>>>>> cleaned regularly; dusted, vacuumed, floors washed, etc. Here is 
>>>>> the link to the JAN document.
>>>>> 
>>>>> http://askjan.org/corner/vol02iss01.htm
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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