[nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies

Cindy Ray cindyray at gmail.com
Sat May 18 12:54:55 UTC 2013


That is good information. I was an airport pick up when I had the one problem; most of the time I don't. How do you find if you are flagged. If you are using a mobile taxicab app, would that necessarily show up in your profile if you didn't put it there?

Cindy Lou

On May 18, 2013, at 7:46 AM, "blind411" <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:

> Since we cannot be denied service because of our guide dogs, it is best to
> not advise them of this fact in advance. Advanced notification causes more
> discrimination than it resolves. If you want to wait forever for a taxicab,
> let the dispatcher know you have a guide dog. If you want to make sure you
> don't get discriminated against, deal with the issue when it arises rather
> than create the issue by advanced notification. Also, if you learn that your
> name, number, or address is flagged in a taxicab company's system as having
> a guide dog and this information seems to be the reason you are not getting
> equal benefits, it is a vilation of the ADA.
> 
> Fraternally yours,
> Marion
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Cindy Ray
> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 7:32 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
> 
> I have had drivers tell me that I should have said that I had a dog in case
> the driver had allergies. I said I was not required to and didn't intend to
> start. I don't think he liked me. One night a driver told me the dog
> couldn't get so close to him in his van. He kept babbling about it, and I
> told him if he would get on with the trip home from the airports, we would
> be out of his cab and he wouldn't have to worry about it anymore. I got home
> not so much later.
> 
> CL
> 
> On May 17, 2013, at 6:01 PM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> hi marry, i did have a cab driver.
>> told me once.
>> that he couldn't have my dog in his cab.
>> but i stayed calm.
>> and ordered a another cab. to drive me to my appointmentt.
>> 
>> 
>> On May 17, 2013, at 1:03 PM, Mary Wurtzel wrote:
>> 
>>> I had my first  experience with someone who was allergic to dogs on a 
>>> bus today.
>>> The lady insisted on standing up at the front of the bus.  I didn't 
>>> know anything else I could do except to let her be.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>> Carcione
>>> Sent: Friday, May 17, 2013 8:10 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>>> 
>>> Indeed it is, but I rather like New Journey!
>>> Tracy
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, May 16, 2013 8:36 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Isn't it the New Jersey Guide Dog Users?
>>>> 
>>>> CL
>>>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2013, at 7:18 AM, rhonda cruz <rhondaprincess at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> hi krystal,  that is the new journey guide dog users,
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 15, 2013, at 7:14 AM, Christel Sogenbits wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hey!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe it is  a very stupid question but what is NJAGDU?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Tervitades / With greetings
>>>>>> Christel Sogenbits
>>>>>> GSM: +372 58 440 521
>>>>>> E-mail: christel.chrissu at gmail.com
>>>>>> Skype: christel.chrissu
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy 
>>>>>> Carcione
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 15, 2013 4:51 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>>>>> Users
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] DOJ on service dogs and allergies
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Trish Ebel posted this info to the NJAGDU list, and Marion asked 
>>>>>> that it
>>> 
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> forwarded here as well.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From: Njagdu [mailto:njagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Trish 
>>>>>> Ebel
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:41 PM
>>>>>> To: New Jersey Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: [Njagdu] Interesting information that may be helpful to 
>>>>>> someone.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> While working with one of the Bergen county school districts we 
>>>>>> came across this problem, so I just wanted to share some helpful
> information.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> In a situation where one student is allergic to dogs and another 
>>>>>> uses a service dog, the student using the service animal should be 
>>>>>> accommodated.
>>>>>> However, there needs to be some thought given to the student with 
>>>>>> allergies.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> When they are in a class together, they should be spacially separated.
> 
>>>>>> Here
>>>>>> is just such an idea from the Department of Justice's document, 
>>>>>> Revised ADA Requirements; Service Animals. This is in regard to 
>>>>>> the new regulations published in 2010.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> a.. Allergies and fear of dogs are not valid reasons for denying 
>>>>>> access or
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> refusing service to people using service animals. When a person 
>>>>>> who is allergic to dog dander and a person who uses a service 
>>>>>> animal must spend time in the same room or facility, for example, 
>>>>>> in a school classroom or
>>> 
>>>>>> at
>>>>>> a homeless shelter, they both should be accommodated by assigning 
>>>>>> them, if possible, to different locations within the room or 
>>>>>> different rooms in the facility.
>>>>>> http://www.ada.gov/service_animals_2010.htm
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The Job Accommodation Network has suggestions for this kind of 
>>>>>> scenario in the workplace. Some of those ideas would not and 
>>>>>> cannot work in a school setting, but some of them might help to 
>>>>>> improve the situation. For example, perhaps a portable air 
>>>>>> purifier could be used in the class room and/or a HEPA filter 
>>>>>> could be used for the ventilation system for that room.
>>>>>> Also,
>>>>>> perhaps the student with the service animal could agree to use a 
>>>>>> dander control product from the veterinarian or local pet store. 
>>>>>> The school could also make for certain that the class room is 
>>>>>> cleaned regularly; dusted, vacuumed, floors washed, etc. Here is 
>>>>>> the link to the JAN document.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://askjan.org/corner/vol02iss01.htm
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
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