[nagdu] Shannon, male dog

Wed Nov 13 23:50:47 UTC 2013

Hi,
I'm only on my first guide dog, but I have helped train a number of dogs.
Within a breed, I have found that females are more high-strung.
About males having less initiative, I think that was just the dogs you
received. My golden guy is incredibly stubborn and very insistent when
he believes/knows he is right. He is very assertive, and very much a
creature of habit.

On 11/13/13, Brandydp <brandydp at verizon.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I have have had four females and four males. Though I think a lot is
> personality traits I do think their is a difference. The biggest difference
> I have seen in the two males and two females I worked for a good amount of
> time is that females seem to have a little more initiative and are more firm
> about it. I am one of those handlers that, though total, think they know
> more than their dog at times and will say, find the curb yet want to show
> her where it is when she is of course right pinta and my previous females
> would say, no stupid it's over here. Whereas my males would say, ok I think
> your wrong but ok. Another good example is that I teach my dogs to find
> stuff I dropped. One day I kept saying, find it show me, and I point to the
> ground. Eventually she took her paw and through my hand on the object.
> Again, this is just what I have experienced. It could of just been
> coincidence that my males were more subtle and females more persistent. I
> also noticed my females have been more high strung by far than my males. I
> also prefer females at this point. Very interesting
>
> brandy pinder
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> On Nov 13, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Shannon Dyer <solsticesinger at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I don't think gender makes a difference. Male dogs are just as good as
>> females. It's temperament that really matters.
>>
>> My concern about male dogs grew out of a lot of bad experiences I had
>> growing up. My father is a fan of really big, really aggressive male dogs.
>> So, when I was told I was being matched with a male, that was the picture
>> I had in my head. Acelet is nothing like my father's dogs. He's small,
>> weighing in at 56 pounds. His temperament is super sweet. Once he gained
>> confidence, he became a great worker.
>>
>> Shannon and the Acelet
>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 12:07 PM, barbandzoe at comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I have read a couple of these e mails. I was wondering, does it make a
>>> difference if the dog is male or female.  For a good guide dog.  I know
>>> that police like male dogs because they are more independent and females
>>> want to be by the officer and protect him.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Barb
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:52:37 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Shannon, male dog
>>>
>>> Well, that's great! I've never had issues with male or female dogs. My
>>> little Pez is a little old dog and is really sweet. But, Holly is the
>>> service dog and she is sweet as well.
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Shannon Dyer" <solsticesinger at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Shannon, male dog
>>>
>>>
>>>> Actually, there wasn't a moment when I knew Acelet and I would make it.
>>>> It
>>>> was a very slow process. As I look back on it, I can't really give you a
>>>>
>>>> defining moment. Strange, I know.
>>>>
>>>> BTW, what kind of dog did you end up getting? If you don't want to share
>>>>
>>>> that information, I understand. Also, how did you like GDF training?
>>>>
>>>> Shannon and the Acelet
>>>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> shannon,
>>>>> even though I have never had a male dog, it pleases me to hear that the
>>>>>
>>>>> partnership is working out thus far, despite some bumps in the road.
>>>>> When
>>>>> did you know, that you and Ace would become a good team? was there that
>>>>>
>>>>> AHH HA moment? Just curious..I have been with my pup for a little over
>>>>> a
>>>>> year now.
>>>>>
>>>>> Marsha drenth
>>>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Shannon Dyer <solsticesinger at gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi, Tracy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I was really, really concerned when I learned I was getting a male
>>>>>> dog.
>>>>>> I had had a lot of hegative experiences with males who were pets, and
>>>>>> I
>>>>>> was terrified.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've had the Acelet for about sixteen months now. He's different from
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> other two dogs, but I'm not sure if the differences have to do with
>>>>>> gender or with personality. Every dog is different, after all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We've finally become a good working time. We had issues in the
>>>>>> beginning, and there were times when I considered sending him back. At
>>>>>>
>>>>>> one point, he seemed way too stressed out by the idea of working. He
>>>>>> would stop in the middle of the street, and have to be coaxed to keep
>>>>>> going.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, as his confidence grew, and I was able to let go of a lot of
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> fears concerning male dogs, his worked improved drastically. He takes
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> lot of initiative now, which is awesome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I'm not sure I would want another male. My preference is still
>>>>>> females, but I've learned a lot in the time I've had Acelet. He's an
>>>>>> awesome little boy, and I'm glad I took the chance to work with him.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Shannon and the Acelet
>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Shannon.
>>>>>>> I know you were very concerned when you learned you were getting a
>>>>>>> male
>>>>>>> dog. Now you've had your Acelet for a while, I am very curious to
>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>> how you are feeling about male dogs.  Do you think there are
>>>>>>> differences?  I'd be real interested to hear your perspective.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've had 3 males and 3 females.  I think there are differences,
>>>>>>> besides
>>>>>>> the obvious physical ones, but I'm not sure I could express what they
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> are. It's possible they're all in my imagination.
>>>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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