[nagdu] Shannon, male dog

Shannon Dyer solsticesinger at gmail.com
Thu Nov 14 00:08:42 UTC 2013 

Hi, Brandy.

It's funny that you say this. My girls have also been more persistent, whereas Acelet is more subtle. Because he is my first male, I just figured it was a personality thing, and didn't really attribute it to gender.

Shannon and the Acelet
On Nov 13, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Brandydp <brandydp at verizon.net> wrote:

> Hi all, 
> I have have had four females and four males. Though I think a lot is personality traits I do think their is a difference. The biggest difference I have seen in the two males and two females I worked for a good amount of time is that females seem to have a little more initiative and are more firm about it. I am one of those handlers that, though total, think they know more than their dog at times and will say, find the curb yet want to show her where it is when she is of course right pinta and my previous females would say, no stupid it's over here. Whereas my males would say, ok I think your wrong but ok. Another good example is that I teach my dogs to find stuff I dropped. One day I kept saying, find it show me, and I point to the ground. Eventually she took her paw and through my hand on the object. Again, this is just what I have experienced. It could of just been coincidence that my males were more subtle and females more persistent. I also noticed my females have been more high strung by far than my males. I also prefer females at this point. Very interesting 
> 
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> On Nov 13, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Shannon Dyer <solsticesinger at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I don't think gender makes a difference. Male dogs are just as good as females. It's temperament that really matters.
>> 
>> My concern about male dogs grew out of a lot of bad experiences I had growing up. My father is a fan of really big, really aggressive male dogs. So, when I was told I was being matched with a male, that was the picture I had in my head. Acelet is nothing like my father's dogs. He's small, weighing in at 56 pounds. His temperament is super sweet. Once he gained confidence, he became a great worker.
>> 
>> Shannon and the Acelet
>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 12:07 PM, barbandzoe at comcast.net wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Hi, 
>>> 
>>> I have read a couple of these e mails. I was wondering, does it make a difference if the dog is male or female.  For a good guide dog.  I know that police like male dogs because they are more independent and females want to be by the officer and protect him. 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Barb 
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> 
>>> From: "Larry D. Keeler" <lkeeler at comcast.net> 
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:52:37 AM 
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Shannon, male dog 
>>> 
>>> Well, that's great! I've never had issues with male or female dogs. My 
>>> little Pez is a little old dog and is really sweet. But, Holly is the 
>>> service dog and she is sweet as well. 
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Shannon Dyer" <solsticesinger at gmail.com> 
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2013 10:50 AM 
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Shannon, male dog 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Actually, there wasn't a moment when I knew Acelet and I would make it. It 
>>>> was a very slow process. As I look back on it, I can't really give you a 
>>>> defining moment. Strange, I know. 
>>>> 
>>>> BTW, what kind of dog did you end up getting? If you don't want to share 
>>>> that information, I understand. Also, how did you like GDF training? 
>>>> 
>>>> Shannon and the Acelet 
>>>> On Nov 13, 2013, at 6:16 AM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>>> shannon, 
>>>>> even though I have never had a male dog, it pleases me to hear that the 
>>>>> partnership is working out thus far, despite some bumps in the road. When 
>>>>> did you know, that you and Ace would become a good team? was there that 
>>>>> AHH HA moment? Just curious..I have been with my pup for a little over a 
>>>>> year now. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha drenth 
>>>>> Sent with my IPhone 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 10:40 AM, Shannon Dyer <solsticesinger at gmail.com> 
>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi, Tracy. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I was really, really concerned when I learned I was getting a male dog. 
>>>>>> I had had a lot of hegative experiences with males who were pets, and I 
>>>>>> was terrified. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've had the Acelet for about sixteen months now. He's different from my 
>>>>>> other two dogs, but I'm not sure if the differences have to do with 
>>>>>> gender or with personality. Every dog is different, after all. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We've finally become a good working time. We had issues in the 
>>>>>> beginning, and there were times when I considered sending him back. At 
>>>>>> one point, he seemed way too stressed out by the idea of working. He 
>>>>>> would stop in the middle of the street, and have to be coaxed to keep 
>>>>>> going. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> However, as his confidence grew, and I was able to let go of a lot of my 
>>>>>> fears concerning male dogs, his worked improved drastically. He takes a 
>>>>>> lot of initiative now, which is awesome. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, I'm not sure I would want another male. My preference is still 
>>>>>> females, but I've learned a lot in the time I've had Acelet. He's an 
>>>>>> awesome little boy, and I'm glad I took the chance to work with him. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Shannon and the Acelet 
>>>>>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> 
>>>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Shannon. 
>>>>>>> I know you were very concerned when you learned you were getting a male 
>>>>>>> dog. Now you've had your Acelet for a while, I am very curious to know 
>>>>>>> how you are feeling about male dogs.  Do you think there are 
>>>>>>> differences?  I'd be real interested to hear your perspective. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I've had 3 males and 3 females.  I think there are differences, besides 
>>>>>>> the obvious physical ones, but I'm not sure I could express what they 
>>>>>>> are. It's possible they're all in my imagination. 
>>>>>>> Tracy 
>>>>>>> 
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