[nagdu] [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US Airlines, Just saw this on ABC News this morning

Marsha Drenth marsha.drenth at gmail.com
Fri Nov 15 01:12:54 UTC 2013 

I would do it. give me a chance. They could even say that a deafblind guide dog user should not fly with her blind husband, guess we will see soon. We are flying from JFK, November 27th to DFW for thanksgiving with American, I think. Watch your news..LOL 

My disclaimer is that I will not make trouble myself, but if given any trouble I will stand up for our rights. Nor will I be in anyones face. 

Marsha drenth  
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> On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:47 PM, cheryl echevarria <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I hope so. I heard that Dr. Maurer was actually thrown off a plane as well.
> 
> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in Independent Travel!
> Cheryl Echevarria, Ownerwww.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.com
> Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking www.nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314. Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith. www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.  Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama
> 
>> From: buddy at brannan.name
>> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:46:16 -0500
>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US Airlines,    Just saw this on ABC News this morning
>> 
>> Wow…is it Airlines Battles Round the second? Are we going to have to do the getting arrested and sitting on planes and things again? I wasn’t part of all that, but I did a research paper on it in high school. Lots of great historical material from the NFB, of course.
>> --
>> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
>> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
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>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Albert,
>>> I am sorry that this has happened. Please keep us updated on what happens. But with that said, as the moderator I need to ask you to be mindful of the rules. No one word, one line messages please. I am sure you have much more to say than, what you did below. Mkae every post to the list count, within 5 posts per day please. 
>>> Thank you, 
>>> 
>>> Marsha drenth  
>>> Sent with my IPhone 
>>> 
>>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:36 AM, "Albert J Rizzi" <albert at myblindspot.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> here, here Michael.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Michael Hingson [mailto:mike at michaelhingson.com] 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:33 AM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'; 'New
>>>> York Association of Guide Dog Users'; 'travelandtourism'
>>>> Cc: 'Yingling, Valerie'; 'Mark` Riccobono'; mike at michaelhingson.com; 'Albert
>>>> J Rizzi'
>>>> Subject: RE: [nagdu] [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US Airlines,
>>>> Just saw this on ABC News this morning
>>>> 
>>>> I would note that I am seeing an increasing level of inappropriate treatment
>>>> of me by airline personnel.  They insist on help when it is not required.
>>>> They have not provided good information to allow me to move from terminal to
>>>> terminal in places like DFW.
>>>> 
>>>> Last Friday an airport individual prevented me from boarding a bus to go
>>>> from one terminal to another in Los Angeles because she said the bus was too
>>>> crowded for me and my guide dog to go on the bus even though others were
>>>> allowed to board after I was stopped.  When I attemped to pass this airport
>>>> person she blocked me and told the driver to leave.
>>>> 
>>>> I am going to contact the airline and find out what kind of training they
>>>> are truly providing.  I believe training has degraded. 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Best,
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Michael Hingson
>>>> 
>>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
>>>> "Speaking with Vision"
>>>> Michael Hingson, President
>>>> (415) 827-4084
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>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Albert J Rizzi
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:28 AM
>>>> To: 'New York Association of Guide Dog Users'; 'travelandtourism'; 'Tina
>>>> Thomas'
>>>> Cc: 'Yingling, Valerie'; 'Mark` Riccobono'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US Airlines,
>>>> Just saw this on ABC News this morning
>>>> 
>>>> Cheryl,
>>>> 
>>>> this is the second time this year a flight attendant from US Airways
>>>> disrespected and discriminated against me as a customer.
>>>> 
>>>> the flight was cancelled because everyone of the 345 passengers on the plane
>>>> argued with security saying that the flight attendant was lying and
>>>> misrepresenting the truth.
>>>> 
>>>> I was sitting in the back of a small plane without a seat in front of  me to
>>>> actually put my dog under. I had to borrow the space under another seat in
>>>> front of another passenger. so the flight attendant did not even try to get
>>>> me a seat to work with that would have allowed me to follow the procedures
>>>> at all.
>>>> 
>>>> I am just off the phone with NNBC and will be following this matter up with
>>>> my attorneys.
>>>> 
>>>> I am happy to let you all know that people out there want to support us and
>>>> our rights to travel, and support the truth, and not the misrepresentations
>>>> that US Airways is stating about the safety of their crew or the passengers
>>>> being an issue.
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Nyagdu [mailto:nyagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl
>>>> echevarria
>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:21 AM
>>>> To: nyagdu; travelandtourism; Tina Thomas
>>>> Cc: Yingling, Valerie; Mark` Riccobono
>>>> Subject: [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US Airlines, Just saw
>>>> this on ABC News this morning
>>>> 
>>>> http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=9325219#
>>>> 
>>>> Good morning all:
>>>> US Airlines cancelled there flight because guide dog users couldn't get his
>>>> dog under the seat in time for take off so they cancelled the flight, really
>>>> wow!!!
>>>> I just saw this story on ABC News just now. I don't know if Albert Rizzi is
>>>> still on the NAGDU or NYAGDU Lists, but he was involved in the story.
>>>> Albert if you are there, you know from our postings that both NAGDU and
>>>> Travel and Tourism Division are heavily working on these issues with the
>>>> airlines.
>>>> From what I heard on the news  and the link to the video is attached.
>>>> What are they are saying, US Airlines cancelled the flight in Philadelphia
>>>> and bused all of the passengers back to McArthur Airport here on Long
>>>> Island, because the flight crew said that Mr. Rizzi, couldn't get his dog to
>>>> get under the seat of the plane in front of him for take off. FYI, from the
>>>> passengers that were interviewed at Islip returning home this morning,
>>>> remember this was a live video, so it was around 5AM this morning. That Mr.
>>>> Rizzi was in no way out of line, or his dog was not listening to him. 
>>>> But the flight attendants say other wise. So the Captain come on the loud
>>>> speaker and because of the issues, they are cancelling the flight and
>>>> everyone was going to be bused back to Long Island.
>>>> NAGDU and Travel and Tourism, we need stuff like this to stop. I know Marion
>>>> Gwizdala and I have spoken and working on a resolution to educate the
>>>> airlines, so these issues do not happen again.
>>>> I am hoping that when Albert can will give a full report on the issues, and
>>>> even though he is not a member of NAGDU and just a member of this list, that
>>>> we can work together to stop these issues.
>>>> If you did not listen to the Echevarria Travel Show this past month with me
>>>> and my co-host Margo Downey, we had President Marion Gwizdala on part of the
>>>> show and we spoke of these issues.
>>>> This is the 3rd Airline to have issues with people with guide dogs and also
>>>> cane users that do not respect us and understand the FAA and Aircraft
>>>> Carriers Act.
>>>> Please go to my blog page for the recent show from November 6, 2013 where we
>>>> also had Dwight Sayer, President, National Association of Blind Veterans.
>>>> http://echevarriatravelblog.com/?page_id=1464
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> Cheryl Echevarria, Board MemberNYAGDU
>>>> and PresidentNFB Travel and Tourism
>>>> www.nfbtravel.orgcherylandmaxx at hotmail.com631-236-5138
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in
>>>> Independent Travel!
>>>> Cheryl Echevarria,
>>>> Ownerwww.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>>>> Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate
>>>> your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking www.nfb.org/vehicledonations or call
>>>> 855-659-9314. Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith.
>>>> www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.  Gail Smith is the Secretary
>>>> of the NFB of Alabama                         
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