[nagdu] [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US Airlines, Just saw this on ABC News this morning

Doug Parisian eggmann at mymts.net
Fri Nov 15 01:47:49 UTC 2013 

If you can manage it, if the airline gives you trouble, get an audio 
recording or better still, use something like an Iphone to make an idiot 
home movie.

Doug: full of, something!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US 
Airlines,Just saw this on ABC News this morning


:I would do it. give me a chance. They could even say that a deafblind guide 
dog user should not fly with her blind husband, guess we will see soon. We 
are flying from JFK, November 27th to DFW for thanksgiving with American, I 
think. Watch your news..LOL
:
: My disclaimer is that I will not make trouble myself, but if given any 
trouble I will stand up for our rights. Nor will I be in anyones face.
:
: Marsha drenth
: Sent with my IPhone
:
: > On Nov 14, 2013, at 4:47 PM, cheryl echevarria 
<cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com> wrote:
: >
: > I hope so. I heard that Dr. Maurer was actually thrown off a plane as 
well.
: >
: > Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in 
Independent Travel!
: > Cheryl Echevarria, 
Ownerwww.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.com
: > Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate 
your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking www.nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 
855-659-9314. Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith. 
www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.  Gail Smith is the Secretary 
of the NFB of Alabama
: >
: >> From: buddy at brannan.name
: >> Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2013 16:46:16 -0500
: >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
: >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US 
Airlines,    Just saw this on ABC News this morning
: >>
: >> Wow…is it Airlines Battles Round the second? Are we going to have to do 
the getting arrested and sitting on planes and things again? I wasn’t part 
of all that, but I did a research paper on it in high school. Lots of great 
historical material from the NFB, of course.
: >> --
: >> Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
: >> Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY
: >>
: >>
: >>
: >>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> 
wrote:
: >>>
: >>> Albert,
: >>> I am sorry that this has happened. Please keep us updated on what 
happens. But with that said, as the moderator I need to ask you to be 
mindful of the rules. No one word, one line messages please. I am sure you 
have much more to say than, what you did below. Mkae every post to the list 
count, within 5 posts per day please.
: >>> Thank you,
: >>>
: >>> Marsha drenth
: >>> Sent with my IPhone
: >>>
: >>>> On Nov 14, 2013, at 7:36 AM, "Albert J Rizzi" 
<albert at myblindspot.org> wrote:
: >>>>
: >>>> here, here Michael.
: >>>>
: >>>> -----Original Message-----
: >>>> From: Michael Hingson [mailto:mike at michaelhingson.com]
: >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 7:33 AM
: >>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
Users'; 'New
: >>>> York Association of Guide Dog Users'; 'travelandtourism'
: >>>> Cc: 'Yingling, Valerie'; 'Mark` Riccobono'; mike at michaelhingson.com; 
'Albert
: >>>> J Rizzi'
: >>>> Subject: RE: [nagdu] [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US 
Airlines,
: >>>> Just saw this on ABC News this morning
: >>>>
: >>>> I would note that I am seeing an increasing level of inappropriate 
treatment
: >>>> of me by airline personnel.  They insist on help when it is not 
required.
: >>>> They have not provided good information to allow me to move from 
terminal to
: >>>> terminal in places like DFW.
: >>>>
: >>>> Last Friday an airport individual prevented me from boarding a bus to 
go
: >>>> from one terminal to another in Los Angeles because she said the bus 
was too
: >>>> crowded for me and my guide dog to go on the bus even though others 
were
: >>>> allowed to board after I was stopped.  When I attemped to pass this 
airport
: >>>> person she blocked me and told the driver to leave.
: >>>>
: >>>> I am going to contact the airline and find out what kind of training 
they
: >>>> are truly providing.  I believe training has degraded.
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>> Best,
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>> Michael Hingson
: >>>>
: >>>> The Michael Hingson Group, INC.
: >>>> "Speaking with Vision"
: >>>> Michael Hingson, President
: >>>> (415) 827-4084
: >>>> info at michaelhingson.com
: >>>> To order Michael Hingson's new book, Thunder Dog, and check on 
Michael
: >>>> Hingson's speaking availability for your next event please visit:
: >>>> www.michaelhingson.com
: >>>>
: >>>> To purchase your own portrait of Roselle painted by the world's 
foremost
: >>>> animal artist, Ron Burns, please visit 
http://www.ronburns.com/roselle
: >>>>
: >>>> -----Original Message-----
: >>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Albert J 
Rizzi
: >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 3:28 AM
: >>>> To: 'New York Association of Guide Dog Users'; 'travelandtourism'; 
'Tina
: >>>> Thomas'
: >>>> Cc: 'Yingling, Valerie'; 'Mark` Riccobono'
: >>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US 
Airlines,
: >>>> Just saw this on ABC News this morning
: >>>>
: >>>> Cheryl,
: >>>>
: >>>> this is the second time this year a flight attendant from US Airways
: >>>> disrespected and discriminated against me as a customer.
: >>>>
: >>>> the flight was cancelled because everyone of the 345 passengers on 
the plane
: >>>> argued with security saying that the flight attendant was lying and
: >>>> misrepresenting the truth.
: >>>>
: >>>> I was sitting in the back of a small plane without a seat in front of 
me to
: >>>> actually put my dog under. I had to borrow the space under another 
seat in
: >>>> front of another passenger. so the flight attendant did not even try 
to get
: >>>> me a seat to work with that would have allowed me to follow the 
procedures
: >>>> at all.
: >>>>
: >>>> I am just off the phone with NNBC and will be following this matter 
up with
: >>>> my attorneys.
: >>>>
: >>>> I am happy to let you all know that people out there want to support 
us and
: >>>> our rights to travel, and support the truth, and not the 
misrepresentations
: >>>> that US Airways is stating about the safety of their crew or the 
passengers
: >>>> being an issue.
: >>>>
: >>>> -----Original Message-----
: >>>> From: Nyagdu [mailto:nyagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl
: >>>> echevarria
: >>>> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 6:21 AM
: >>>> To: nyagdu; travelandtourism; Tina Thomas
: >>>> Cc: Yingling, Valerie; Mark` Riccobono
: >>>> Subject: [Nyagdu] Another issues with Guide Dogs on US Airlines, Just 
saw
: >>>> this on ABC News this morning
: >>>>
: >>>> http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/video?id=9325219#
: >>>>
: >>>> Good morning all:
: >>>> US Airlines cancelled there flight because guide dog users couldn't 
get his
: >>>> dog under the seat in time for take off so they cancelled the flight, 
really
: >>>> wow!!!
: >>>> I just saw this story on ABC News just now. I don't know if Albert 
Rizzi is
: >>>> still on the NAGDU or NYAGDU Lists, but he was involved in the story.
: >>>> Albert if you are there, you know from our postings that both NAGDU 
and
: >>>> Travel and Tourism Division are heavily working on these issues with 
the
: >>>> airlines.
: >>>> From what I heard on the news  and the link to the video is attached.
: >>>> What are they are saying, US Airlines cancelled the flight in 
Philadelphia
: >>>> and bused all of the passengers back to McArthur Airport here on Long
: >>>> Island, because the flight crew said that Mr. Rizzi, couldn't get his 
dog to
: >>>> get under the seat of the plane in front of him for take off. FYI, 
from the
: >>>> passengers that were interviewed at Islip returning home this 
morning,
: >>>> remember this was a live video, so it was around 5AM this morning. 
That Mr.
: >>>> Rizzi was in no way out of line, or his dog was not listening to him.
: >>>> But the flight attendants say other wise. So the Captain come on the 
loud
: >>>> speaker and because of the issues, they are cancelling the flight and
: >>>> everyone was going to be bused back to Long Island.
: >>>> NAGDU and Travel and Tourism, we need stuff like this to stop. I know 
Marion
: >>>> Gwizdala and I have spoken and working on a resolution to educate the
: >>>> airlines, so these issues do not happen again.
: >>>> I am hoping that when Albert can will give a full report on the 
issues, and
: >>>> even though he is not a member of NAGDU and just a member of this 
list, that
: >>>> we can work together to stop these issues.
: >>>> If you did not listen to the Echevarria Travel Show this past month 
with me
: >>>> and my co-host Margo Downey, we had President Marion Gwizdala on part 
of the
: >>>> show and we spoke of these issues.
: >>>> This is the 3rd Airline to have issues with people with guide dogs 
and also
: >>>> cane users that do not respect us and understand the FAA and Aircraft
: >>>> Carriers Act.
: >>>> Please go to my blog page for the recent show from November 6, 2013 
where we
: >>>> also had Dwight Sayer, President, National Association of Blind 
Veterans.
: >>>> http://echevarriatravelblog.com/?page_id=1464
: >>>> Thank you.
: >>>> Cheryl Echevarria, Board MemberNYAGDU
: >>>> and PresidentNFB Travel and Tourism
: >>>> www.nfbtravel.orgcherylandmaxx at hotmail.com631-236-5138
: >>>>
: >>>>
: >>>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in
: >>>> Independent Travel!
: >>>> Cheryl Echevarria,
: >>>> 
Ownerwww.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.com
: >>>> Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child. 
Donate
: >>>> your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking www.nfb.org/vehicledonations 
or call
: >>>> 855-659-9314. Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith.
: >>>> www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.  Gail Smith is the 
Secretary
: >>>> of the NFB of Alabama
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