[nagdu] Airline Travel

Doug Parisian eggmann at mymts.net
Sat Nov 16 15:38:02 UTC 2013 

Which one goes under the seat, the dog or your friend?
Doug: easily confused.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Sherry Gomes" <sherriola at gmail.com>
To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2013 8:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel


: My friend has a 90 pound, huge lab-golden cross and he does well on 
flights
: under the seat. He does take the harness off I think, or at least removes
: the handle, because the way the GDB handle sits up off the back could be
: uncomfortable under a plane seat.
:
:
:
: -----Original Message-----
: From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Craig Heaps
: Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 9:31 PM
: To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
: Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel
:
: Chase is a 65 pound black Labrador retriever.  Do you think he would fit
: under the seat in front of me?  He fits under a BART seat, but they're
: mounted with a fair amount of clearance under them.  I'm also not sure how
: he would do that confined for three or four hours.
:
:
: ----- Original Message ----- 
: From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
: To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
: Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 5:58 PM
: Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel
:
:
: >I do a number of different things when I fly. I try to take Lexia out for
: > the last time as close close to the flight as I can, and then I usually
: > don't give her too much water. You might also consider reducing the 
amount
: > of food you give your dog before flying. Regardless of if you do this, 
you
: > might consider giving your dog Pepcid. I always make sure that I have at
: > least one extra meal for Lexia as well as treats.
: > I let the airline know that I have a guide dog, but not the airport. In
: > any
: > case, I've been to the same terminal so many times that the people who
: > help
: > me have usually seen me before. I ask for assistance to the gate. The 
only
: > time that this kind of went wrong is when they brought me a wheelchair,
: > but
: > they took it away once I firmly told them that that is not what I had
: > asked
: > for.
: > There is no right way to go through security. They take me through the
: > line
: > for people with disabilities. I do not like setting of the scanner, so I
: > put
: > a cloth leash on Lexia and take off her harness, leash, chain collar, 
and
: > cloth collar as they all contain mettal. The cloth leash looks kind of
: > like
: > a soft rope with a loop at either end. I slide the loop back over the 
rope
: > to make it into a loop that will pull tight. It does not pull, though,
: > because the leash is thick. Lexia is very good about going through
: > security.
: > For take off, I put Lexia under the seat in front of me. Once we have
: > taken
: > off, I often let her turn sideways behing my legs. Usually, the person
: > beside me does not mind her; I often almost have the opposite problem... 
I
: > always ask if the flight is full. For the times when it is only a small
: > difference, especially when you pay for the luggage, I sometimes upgrade
: > to
: > first class because there is more room.
: >
: > Nicole and Lexia
: >
: > -----Original Message-----
: > From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl
: > echevarria
: > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 4:51 PM
: > To: NAGDU Talk List
: > Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel
: >
: > Hey Brandy:
: > If you use the TSA Care program, like I posted they will already know 
you
: > are coming at all the airports now, they should have a line just for
: > people
: > with disabilities. Always ask for that, these are one of the perks we
: > should
: > take advantage of, because a lot of the time, the line goes faster, and
: > these TSA Agents just work with people with disabilities, so hopefully
: > less
: > stress when going this way.
: >
: > Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in
: > Independent Travel!
: > Cheryl Echevarria,
: > 
Ownerwww.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.com
: > Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate
: > your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking www.nfb.org/vehicledonations or
: > call
: > 855-659-9314. Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith.
: > www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.  Gail Smith is the
: > Secretary
: > of the NFB of Alabama
: >
: >> From: brandydp at verizon.net
: >> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:40:23 -0500
: >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
: >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel
: >>
: >> Hi Craig,
: >> This is what I usually do. You can call ahead as cheryl said. I haven't
: > tried that before. Is your wife sighted? When I fly alone I ask for a 
sky
: > cap to assist me through security. Even when I had my boyfriend with me
: > this
: > last flight jfk asked if I would still like assistance. I said yes and
: > they
: > took us to a shorter line through security. Here you take off shoes and
: > blah
: > blah. Legally they can't ask you to take off the harness. I usually do
: > just
: > because they are going to pat my dog down and this way it won't be in
: > harness and it saves them searching the harness pouch with miss wriggles
: > bouncing around as she does. There are three ways to do this. This is 
the
: > one I do. Have someone take you up close enough to the detector, think
: > it's
: > called a magdomitor, have your dog sit or down make a long leash then 
you
: > walk through making sure to keep the metal in your hand. When they tell
: > you
: > call chase through. Then he only goes off and they only search him. Or 
you
: > can send the dog first, heard this somewhere don't know if I would try 
it.
: > Or you both can walk through and they would have to pat down both of 
you.
: > They will probably swab your hands because people have apparently hidden
: > explosives in animals... Very sad. They ask you to not touch your dog
: > after
: > going through. I accidently do this and haven't been yelled at yet. As 
for
: > sitting it's up to you. I prefer to not sit in bulkhead but my dogs have
: > been small. I always try to get the window seat so the dog lays parallel
: > to
: > the wall under the seat in front of you. You may prefer bulkhead. They
: > have
: > to lay perpendicular to you there but your wife will be next to you so
: > stealing her foot room won't be an issue. Lol. You can always go to the
: > desk
: > at the gate to discuss seating and they will contact passengers to see 
if
: > they are ok switching. Hope this helps.
: >>
: >> brandy pinder
: >> Alumni Council -  second vice Chairman Guide Dog Foundation for the
: >> Blind, IncR and America's VetDogsR, The Veteran's K-9 Corps IncR
: >> Providing "Second uSight"R since 1946
: >>
: >> 371 E. Jericho Turnpike smith town ny 11766
: >> Cso: 866-282-8047
: >> Email: brandydp at verizon.net
: >> Cell: 304-685-4499
: >>
: >> On Nov 15, 2013, at 7:14 PM, cheryl echevarria
: >> <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
: > wrote:
: >>
: >> > Here is the link to the website for TSA Care Program.
: >> > Maybe had NAGDU's webmaster put it on the website site.
: >> > http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/travelers-disabilities-and-m
: >> > edical-conditions
: >> >
: >> > Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in
: > Independent Travel!
: >> > Cheryl Echevarria,
: >> > Ownerwww.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatrav
: >> > el.com Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind
: >> > child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking
: >> > www.nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314. Echevarria Travel
: >> > has partnered with Braille Smith. www.braillesmith.com for all her
: >> > braille needs.  Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama
: >> >
: >> >> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:42:16 -0500
: >> >> From: Cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
: >> >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
: >> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel
: >> >>
: >> >> Go to the tsa cares website and call them 72 hours prior to flying
: >> >> they
: > can help you through it. I am not on the computer right now so if anyone
: > can
: > post the website or the phone number.
: >> >>
: >> >>
: >> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SR4
: >> >>
: >> >> -------- Original message --------
: >> >> From: craig.heaps at comcast.net
: >> >> Date:11/15/2013  4:34 PM  (GMT-05:00)
: >> >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
: >> >> Subject: [nagdu] Airline Travel
: >> >>
: >> >> My guide, Chase, and I will be flying Thanksgiving week with my wife
: >> >> to
: > Milwaukee to see our son and daughter-in-law.  It will be the first 
flight
: > Chase and I have taken together.  He's very mellow.  He rides the BART
: > train
: > every day and has taken a few local bus trips as well.
: >> >> Please give me any advice you have on airline travel, including how 
to
: > navigate the TSA checkpoints..  The more detailed, the better.
: >> >>
: >> >> We will fly from San Francisco to Milwaukee on Southwest Airlines. 
I
: > have preboarded many times before on Southwest while cane traveling.
: >> >>
: >> >> Thanks for your help.
: >> >>
: >> >> Craig Heaps and Chase
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