[nagdu] Airline Travel

Tracy Carcione carcione at access.net
Sat Nov 16 15:38:24 UTC 2013 

My dog is 60 pounds, and he fits fine under the seat.  I always take off the 
harness and stick it between the seat and the wall, if I'm by the window, or 
under my seat, if I'm not.  I'm afraid it would get stuck on something, if I 
leave it on.
Some planes have more room in bulkhead, and some have almost no room there. 
Last trip I took, I upgraded to first class, and got the bulkhead, by 
chance.  There was no space for Ben at all.  I had to switch with someone in 
the next row back.  First class these days seems to have the same legroom as 
coach used to have.
I've had similar problems with the bulkhead seats in coach.  Some barely 
have room for my legs, forget about room for Ben as well.
Tracy

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Craig Heaps" <craig.heaps at comcast.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 11:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel


> Chase is a 65 pound black Labrador retriever.  Do you think he would fit 
> under the seat in front of me?  He fits under a BART seat, but they're 
> mounted with a fair amount of clearance under them.  I'm also not sure how 
> he would do that confined for three or four hours.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>
> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 5:58 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel
>
>
>>I do a number of different things when I fly. I try to take Lexia out for
>> the last time as close close to the flight as I can, and then I usually
>> don't give her too much water. You might also consider reducing the 
>> amount
>> of food you give your dog before flying. Regardless of if you do this, 
>> you
>> might consider giving your dog Pepcid. I always make sure that I have at
>> least one extra meal for Lexia as well as treats.
>> I let the airline know that I have a guide dog, but not the airport. In 
>> any
>> case, I've been to the same terminal so many times that the people who 
>> help
>> me have usually seen me before. I ask for assistance to the gate. The 
>> only
>> time that this kind of went wrong is when they brought me a wheelchair, 
>> but
>> they took it away once I firmly told them that that is not what I had 
>> asked
>> for.
>> There is no right way to go through security. They take me through the 
>> line
>> for people with disabilities. I do not like setting of the scanner, so I 
>> put
>> a cloth leash on Lexia and take off her harness, leash, chain collar, and
>> cloth collar as they all contain mettal. The cloth leash looks kind of 
>> like
>> a soft rope with a loop at either end. I slide the loop back over the 
>> rope
>> to make it into a loop that will pull tight. It does not pull, though,
>> because the leash is thick. Lexia is very good about going through 
>> security.
>> For take off, I put Lexia under the seat in front of me. Once we have 
>> taken
>> off, I often let her turn sideways behing my legs. Usually, the person
>> beside me does not mind her; I often almost have the opposite problem... 
>> I
>> always ask if the flight is full. For the times when it is only a small
>> difference, especially when you pay for the luggage, I sometimes upgrade 
>> to
>> first class because there is more room.
>>
>> Nicole and Lexia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of cheryl 
>> echevarria
>> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2013 4:51 PM
>> To: NAGDU Talk List
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel
>>
>> Hey Brandy:
>> If you use the TSA Care program, like I posted they will already know you
>> are coming at all the airports now, they should have a line just for 
>> people
>> with disabilities. Always ask for that, these are one of the perks we 
>> should
>> take advantage of, because a lot of the time, the line goes faster, and
>> these TSA Agents just work with people with disabilities, so hopefully 
>> less
>> stress when going this way.
>>
>> Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in
>> Independent Travel!
>> Cheryl Echevarria,
>> Ownerwww.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatravel.com
>> Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind child.  Donate
>> your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking www.nfb.org/vehicledonations or 
>> call
>> 855-659-9314. Echevarria Travel has partnered with Braille Smith.
>> www.braillesmith.com for all her braille needs.  Gail Smith is the 
>> Secretary
>> of the NFB of Alabama
>>
>>> From: brandydp at verizon.net
>>> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 19:40:23 -0500
>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel
>>>
>>> Hi Craig,
>>> This is what I usually do. You can call ahead as cheryl said. I haven't
>> tried that before. Is your wife sighted? When I fly alone I ask for a sky
>> cap to assist me through security. Even when I had my boyfriend with me 
>> this
>> last flight jfk asked if I would still like assistance. I said yes and 
>> they
>> took us to a shorter line through security. Here you take off shoes and 
>> blah
>> blah. Legally they can't ask you to take off the harness. I usually do 
>> just
>> because they are going to pat my dog down and this way it won't be in
>> harness and it saves them searching the harness pouch with miss wriggles
>> bouncing around as she does. There are three ways to do this. This is the
>> one I do. Have someone take you up close enough to the detector, think 
>> it's
>> called a magdomitor, have your dog sit or down make a long leash then you
>> walk through making sure to keep the metal in your hand. When they tell 
>> you
>> call chase through. Then he only goes off and they only search him. Or 
>> you
>> can send the dog first, heard this somewhere don't know if I would try 
>> it.
>> Or you both can walk through and they would have to pat down both of you.
>> They will probably swab your hands because people have apparently hidden
>> explosives in animals... Very sad. They ask you to not touch your dog 
>> after
>> going through. I accidently do this and haven't been yelled at yet. As 
>> for
>> sitting it's up to you. I prefer to not sit in bulkhead but my dogs have
>> been small. I always try to get the window seat so the dog lays parallel 
>> to
>> the wall under the seat in front of you. You may prefer bulkhead. They 
>> have
>> to lay perpendicular to you there but your wife will be next to you so
>> stealing her foot room won't be an issue. Lol. You can always go to the 
>> desk
>> at the gate to discuss seating and they will contact passengers to see if
>> they are ok switching. Hope this helps.
>>>
>>> brandy pinder
>>> Alumni Council -  second vice Chairman Guide Dog Foundation for the
>>> Blind, IncR and America's VetDogsR, The Veteran's K-9 Corps IncR
>>> Providing "Second uSight"R since 1946
>>>
>>> 371 E. Jericho Turnpike smith town ny 11766
>>> Cso: 866-282-8047
>>> Email: brandydp at verizon.net
>>> Cell: 304-685-4499
>>>
>>> On Nov 15, 2013, at 7:14 PM, cheryl echevarria 
>>> <cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Here is the link to the website for TSA Care Program.
>>> > Maybe had NAGDU's webmaster put it on the website site.
>>> > http://www.tsa.gov/traveler-information/travelers-disabilities-and-m
>>> > edical-conditions
>>> >
>>> > Disabled Entrepreneur of the Year 2012 of NY StateLeading the Way in
>> Independent Travel!
>>> > Cheryl Echevarria,
>>> > Ownerwww.echevarriatravel.com631-456-5394reservations at echevarriatrav
>>> > el.com Your old car keys can be the keys to literacy for a blind
>>> > child.  Donate your unwanted vehicle to us by clicking
>>> > www.nfb.org/vehicledonations or call 855-659-9314. Echevarria Travel
>>> > has partnered with Braille Smith. www.braillesmith.com for all her
>>> > braille needs.  Gail Smith is the Secretary of the NFB of Alabama
>>> >
>>> >> Date: Fri, 15 Nov 2013 16:42:16 -0500
>>> >> From: Cherylandmaxx at hotmail.com
>>> >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> >> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Airline Travel
>>> >>
>>> >> Go to the tsa cares website and call them 72 hours prior to flying 
>>> >> they
>> can help you through it. I am not on the computer right now so if anyone 
>> can
>> post the website or the phone number.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy SR4
>>> >>
>>> >> -------- Original message --------
>>> >> From: craig.heaps at comcast.net
>>> >> Date:11/15/2013  4:34 PM  (GMT-05:00)
>>> >> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> >> Subject: [nagdu] Airline Travel
>>> >>
>>> >> My guide, Chase, and I will be flying Thanksgiving week with my wife 
>>> >> to
>> Milwaukee to see our son and daughter-in-law.  It will be the first 
>> flight
>> Chase and I have taken together.  He's very mellow.  He rides the BART 
>> train
>> every day and has taken a few local bus trips as well.
>>> >> Please give me any advice you have on airline travel, including how 
>>> >> to
>> navigate the TSA checkpoints..  The more detailed, the better.
>>> >>
>>> >> We will fly from San Francisco to Milwaukee on Southwest Airlines.  I
>> have preboarded many times before on Southwest while cane traveling.
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks for your help.
>>> >>
>>> >> Craig Heaps and Chase
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