[nagdu] Hi

Tue Nov 19 00:43:45 UTC 2013

I know people know  that the dog is a guide dog, but I like taking a dog for a walk better then the cane.  I live in a very big dog neighborhood,  We do have a lot of blind people who live there to, but I just like dogs more then canes.  If I have to have a cane, I would rather have a dog.  Plus I like the companionship you get with an animal friend. 
Barb 

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From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com> 
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2013 9:05:55 PM 
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi 

Barb, why do you feel funny using a cane. I was married to a wise man before I got my first one. I thought the dog would make me look different. He said, "And you think the cane doesn't?" You stand out whether you are using a dog or a cane. But dogs are nice to use and, as you have learned, quite a few people with some vision do use them. 

CL 

On Nov 15, 2013, at 1:51 PM, Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> wrote: 

> Thank you for this. 
> What would happen if say you had to have a medical procedure. If you went skiing and broke your leg, what would your work do? 
> 
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of barbandzoe at comcast.net 
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 11:52 AM 
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi 
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> 
> I work at a fitness club, I do laundry and locker room attendant I am part time right now and have no vacation and sick pay.   
> 
> I had always though that guide dogs were only for people with no sight, and now I find that people who are legally blind can use a guide dog.  I don't like using a cane I feel funny.  Plus I have had abit of trouble with night and bright day vision since I get glaucoma.   Plus I am in my fifties and go home at night and I end up in the best part of town.  I have not had trouble yet, but all the people going to the bar and the guys out pan handling, well it would be nice to have a friend with me. plus sometimes when I cross so of the busier streets, it is a bit of a guessing game. 
> Plus I would have had a dog and time ago if I would have known this. 
> 
> If it is a cane or dog, I will take the dog anyday. 
> 
> Barb 
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
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> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> 
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:28:17 AM 
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi 
> 
> Not necessarily. 
> Talk to other schools, GDF, Guiding Eyes, Leader, you've got nothing to loose. 
> Leader Dogs also doesn't grant ownership. 
> I'm not sure about Guiding Eyes. GDF does. Any school that doesn't grant ownership can take your dog back. Think of it like renting. If that gives you the willies, then you do need a school that grants ownership. Could you take medical leave or vacation time? Would you want to do this? 
> I'm curious, what do you do? And, why do you want a dog now? Maybe if you can explain that to your employer, you'll have better luck? 
> I had two dogs, and now use a cane. If you like, email me off-list. 
> 
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of barbandzoe at comcast.net 
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 10:22 AM 
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi 
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> 
> Hi, 
> 
> Thanks for that.  I don't have the option to say it's like taking classes, cause we have no classes to take that would help me in my job.  I am a low level employee and they can find some one w=else to do my job. 
> 
> I have herd that about fidelco the taking of the dog. That does bother me.  But if I want a dog I would have to go through them because I can't get that kind of time off.   
> 
> 
> Barb 
> 
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> From: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> 
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> Sent: Thursday, November 14, 2013 8:03:14 AM 
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi 
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> Barb, 
> Talk to your boss and present it as training like computer or other training, training that you will use to help make you a better employee. Look at your com Pany and see what types of courses they offer, many do offer multiweek courses of all kinds. 
> I'd approach from that angle. 
> As for Fildelco, you have to understand that they don't grant ownership, which means they can take your dog at any time for any reason. It's be like if I lent you my Ipod, I could come and get it whenever I liked. The school may never do this to you, but they do have that option. 
> 
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> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of barbandzoe at comcast.net 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 10:33 PM 
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> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi 
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> Yes, I have herd about things with fidelco, but I don't know what the issues are.   I don't want trouble, and if I find they are to stricked  in some of their needs and conditions, I will look into another school.   If the people who have dogs from fidelco get this, could they tell me what I may need to know. I know Seeing Eye has GSD's but they have a four week program.  How if I can get my  boss to let me talk that time, I would go there, or pilot dogs.   
> 
> Thanks 
> Barb 
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> From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com> 
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 8:46:46 PM 
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi 
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> Best of luck choosing a school. Whatever school you choose, be sure to familiarize yourself with its contract. Some  schools do not grant you full ownership of your dog and requires certain conditions be met. There are several people who got dogs from Fidelco on this list. 
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> 
> Tai 
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> Sent  from my iPhone 
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>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 8:26 PM, barbandzoe at comcast.net wrote: 
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>> II have been looking into Fidelco, mostly because they come to my house and train there for about three weeks, plus I really want a GSD.  It is hard enough to get a couple of days off work two to four weeks would be hard.  I know that I still have to take time off to train with Fidelco, but if I can't get a shift covered, maybe we could use that as a training session.   Plus I have two dogs at home that are my roommates, and the trainer could maybe help with introducing them. 
>> 
>> Barb 
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>> From: "Tai Blas" <taiablas at gmail.com> 
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2013 2:49:09 PM 
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Hi 
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>> Welcome to the list. It is my understanding that Guide Dogs for the Blind has a two week training program. They have campuses in California and Oregon. Their website is www.guidedogs.com. 
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>> Tai 
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>> Sent from my iPhone 
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>>> On Nov 12, 2013, at 2:34 PM, barbandzoe at comcast.net wrote: 
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>>> Hi am knew to the list, and my name is Barb 
>>> 
>>> I am looking into getting a guide dog, but haven't gotten any pepper work yet. I am still looking at schools, but I am finding the 4 weeks away from home and work a bit much to work around.  I want a dog and hope to get things started soon. 
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