[nagdu] Barking Puppies!

Tue Nov 26 21:30:22 UTC 2013

Hey! Sounds like you are making good progress.

Yours isn't the first dog I've known to be taken back to the 
kennel/training environment and have no problem whatsoever. So the dog 
comes back home, and guess what? The behaviors crop back up. Of course, 
for the programs, budget and staff time must make it difficult to work 
on some problems in the dog's new home unless it's quick fix stuff.

I'm glad she's doing better!

Tami

On 11/26/2013 01:06 PM, Abigail Marie Bolling wrote:
> Thank you all.
>
> Cindy, GL I can get her to work, but I feel that she is stressed, to
> the point that the GL is an actual distraction.
>
> Tommy, I will try some of those. In harness it definitely isn't very
> bad anymore.
>
> No, leader did not give me a reason other than they want to see it in
> action there. Unfortunately she made a liar out of me-she didn't bark
> at all! Even in the Kennels!
>
>
> I actually changed the text tone on my phone to the doorbell sound
> thinking maybe if she heard it more often, it would curb her response.
> Now it's unpredictable. Sometimes she'll bark, sometimes it will be a
> belly bark, sometimes she'll stare at the phone with her ears pricked,
> and others she will ignore it completely.
> I've gotten it to where if she does full or belly bark, I tell her
> "quiet" and she's good, which is an improvement.
>
> Thank you all for your support, and if anyone else has suggestions, I
> am definitely open to any!
>
> Abby and the currently Sleepy puppy called Jada
>
> On 11/26/13, Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Abby. I'd call Leader now about the barking. What I wouldn't do is find your
>> own trainer and I certainly wouldn't spend money on a trainer. Since they
>> own your dog, they can literally pay for the resolution of this problem.
>> Tell them you'd be willing to work with a non guide dog trainer and see what
>> they say.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abigail Bolling
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:15 AM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>
>> My pretty princess will bark through a high-collar. It's not loud but I can
>> tell she's not getting it.
>> I got Jada from Leader, and in January I can apply for ownership. So I am
>> wondering if a month or so after I own her, I should call them about the
>> barking.
>> In January, I am planning to move into college so I will be calling them
>> anyway to for O and M  anyway.
>> GL doesn't make a difference, she doesn't like to work in it. To the point
>> that every time the stops working, ′for a curb or stairs or doors′ she will
>> rub her head against  my leg, or stop and paw at her face.
>>
>> Abby and Princess Jada
>>
>> Abigail Bolling
>> Ohio Association of Blind Students: Treasurer
>> Phone: 513-258-5043
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:57 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> When my old gal Echo thought she could bark a lot, I gave her a good
>>> high-collar correction and a sharp reprimand, and, after a few times, she
>>> got the message.  It does require having the dog on leash at the time the
>>> offense occurs, and I think this person said the barking happens when the
>>> dog is on tie-down at work.
>>> I guess, from Cindy's experience, the high-collar doesn't always work, but
>>> it worked for me.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:50 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>
>>>
>>>> Well shoot, if she is working well I'd leave it alone. I can see where
>>>> you might not want to call the school. If you did, you could remind them
>>>> that their taking the dog away didn't really solve anything. I would look
>>>> for a trainer, but rather than having them do the training, I would have
>>>> them come or demonstrate what they do that is effective in making dogs
>>>> cease their barking. I've not ever been able to resolve my issue with
>>>> Fisher and lunge/bark at other dogs that he doesn't know, but he does it
>>>> less in his GL. I just don't bother to talk to the school about it. They
>>>> have no real suggestions, and their coming here is a waste of time and
>>>> money.
>>>>
>>>> CL
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:45 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't say it does no good.  You pays your money; you takes your
>>>>> chances.  And, usually, odds are pretty good the school won't swoop in
>>>>> and take the dog, though that's quite a sword to have hanging over your
>>>>> head.
>>>>>
>>>>> If the person does choose to pay a trainer, she should make sure the
>>>>> trainer uses methods that she approves of.  Not all do.
>>>>> Tracy
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Star Gazer"
>>>>> <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:31 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But, if the person doesn't own the dog, they can spend all the money in
>>>>>> the world and the school can take the dog anyway.
>>>>>> It's like renting a house, you can spend a mint to make repairs and it
>>>>>> still isn't your house.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or, to put it another way, let's say you meet a hot guy and you hit it
>>>>>> off like gangbusters. You move in into his house and you fund a bunch
>>>>>> of things to fix the place up. Then he comes home one day and says "I
>>>>>> want you out of here". That's what happens if you don't own your dog.
>>>>>> It does no good to spend money and look up dog trainers in a situation
>>>>>> like this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>>> barbandzoe at comcast.net
>>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:36 PM
>>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WOW, first, the school tool your dog, do I dare ask witch one, I am
>>>>>> looking into getting a dog and I haven't settled on  a school yet.
>>>>>> Second, this isn't a guide dog issue, it sounds like a dog issue.  If
>>>>>> you have the money or can find someone who knows dog training to help
>>>>>> deal with the dog issue.  I would not want the school to take my dog
>>>>>> over barking if I could find some help near by. I would look up dog
>>>>>> trainers in my area and talk to them and see what they can do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: "Abigail Marie Bolling" <violingirl30794 at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45:24 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My sweet little Jada has a little bit of a barking issue.
>>>>>> Unfortunately, I am a bit hesitant to call my school for help because
>>>>>> last time I called because she was barking, they took her away from me
>>>>>> for a month...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But anyway. Jada barks at doorbells.
>>>>>> And not just the house one either.
>>>>>> She barks at them during movies, on TV and even the ringtone on the
>>>>>> IPhone. (I'm not kidding.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tried to incorporate the doorbell on the IPhone into our daily
>>>>>> obedience sessions, but it's not seeming to work.
>>>>>> I have at least 3 rings before she will lay or sit quietly, then she is
>>>>>> fine. But instantaneous doorbells make her bark and I can't seem to
>>>>>> break her of them.
>>>>>> I've tried grabbing her muzzle and staring her down, I've tried verbal
>>>>>> corrections and collar corrections. (I don't think it should warrant a
>>>>>> high collar unless she is aggressive but I could be wrong.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> She seems to also bark at men for some reason. If a man walks into the
>>>>>> Pizza Parlor where I work and Jada is in her crate, she will bark.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Quiet," doesn't really work. She will however go from full bark to
>>>>>> belly bark. Should I settle for belly bark as long as it's not
>>>>>> distracting?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other thing is that she will bark and whine at other dogs while
>>>>>> working in harness, but she will also work past them just pulling a
>>>>>> little. (And not necessarily toward the other dog.) Should I just let
>>>>>> it go if she is working well?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks, and hopefully I didn't ask too much! :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Abby and Princess Jada
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Abigail Bolling
>>>>>> Ohio Association Of Blind Students: Treasurer
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Email: Abigail.me.bolling94 at gmail.com and violingirl30794 at hotmail.com
>>>>>> Phone: 513-258-5043
>>>>>> "Dance like no one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing
>>>>>> like no one is listening, and live like it's heaven on earth." William
>>>>>> Purkey
>>>>>>
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