[nagdu] Barking Puppies!
Nicole Torcolini
ntorcolini at wavecable.com
Thu Nov 28 00:31:16 UTC 2013
Ugh, yes. The dogs always behave when they see the trainers or go back for
evaluation. One time, I was having slight problems with Lexia, but, as soon
as the field rep came to see me, she behaved.
Lexia is the same way with the gentle leader. As I said in one of my other
messages, she just won't budge when I put it on her. I have not tried in
years because she does not need it. I did not ever intentionally do
anything to hurt her the one time that we were required to use it in class,
but something must have happened. Many of the other dogs who I know who wear
one hate it and try to rub it off every chance that they get. You might
consider trying a haulty instead.
-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abigail Marie
Bolling
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 1:07 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
Thank you all.
Cindy, GL I can get her to work, but I feel that she is stressed, to the
point that the GL is an actual distraction.
Tommy, I will try some of those. In harness it definitely isn't very bad
anymore.
No, leader did not give me a reason other than they want to see it in action
there. Unfortunately she made a liar out of me-she didn't bark at all! Even
in the Kennels!
I actually changed the text tone on my phone to the doorbell sound thinking
maybe if she heard it more often, it would curb her response.
Now it's unpredictable. Sometimes she'll bark, sometimes it will be a belly
bark, sometimes she'll stare at the phone with her ears pricked, and others
she will ignore it completely.
I've gotten it to where if she does full or belly bark, I tell her "quiet"
and she's good, which is an improvement.
Thank you all for your support, and if anyone else has suggestions, I am
definitely open to any!
Abby and the currently Sleepy puppy called Jada
On 11/26/13, Star Gazer <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> wrote:
> Abby. I'd call Leader now about the barking. What I wouldn't do is
> find your own trainer and I certainly wouldn't spend money on a
> trainer. Since they own your dog, they can literally pay for the
resolution of this problem.
> Tell them you'd be willing to work with a non guide dog trainer and
> see what they say.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abigail
> Bolling
> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 10:15 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>
> My pretty princess will bark through a high-collar. It's not loud but
> I can tell she's not getting it.
> I got Jada from Leader, and in January I can apply for ownership. So I
> am wondering if a month or so after I own her, I should call them
> about the barking.
> In January, I am planning to move into college so I will be calling
> them anyway to for O and M anyway.
> GL doesn't make a difference, she doesn't like to work in it. To the
> point that every time the stops working, ′for a curb or stairs or
> doors′ she will rub her head against my leg, or stop and paw at her
face.
>
> Abby and Princess Jada
>
> Abigail Bolling
> Ohio Association of Blind Students: Treasurer
> Phone: 513-258-5043
>
>
>
>
>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 9:57 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
wrote:
>>
>> When my old gal Echo thought she could bark a lot, I gave her a good
>> high-collar correction and a sharp reprimand, and, after a few times,
>> she got the message. It does require having the dog on leash at the
>> time the offense occurs, and I think this person said the barking
>> happens when the dog is on tie-down at work.
>> I guess, from Cindy's experience, the high-collar doesn't always
>> work, but it worked for me.
>> Tracy
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cindy Ray" <cindyray at gmail.com>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:50 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>
>>
>>> Well shoot, if she is working well I'd leave it alone. I can see
>>> where you might not want to call the school. If you did, you could
>>> remind them that their taking the dog away didn't really solve
>>> anything. I would look for a trainer, but rather than having them do
>>> the training, I would have them come or demonstrate what they do
>>> that is effective in making dogs cease their barking. I've not ever
>>> been able to resolve my issue with Fisher and lunge/bark at other
>>> dogs that he doesn't know, but he does it less in his GL. I just
>>> don't bother to talk to the school about it. They have no real
>>> suggestions, and their coming here is a waste of time and money.
>>>
>>> CL
>>>
>>>> On Nov 26, 2013, at 8:45 AM, "Tracy Carcione" <carcione at access.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wouldn't say it does no good. You pays your money; you takes
>>>> your chances. And, usually, odds are pretty good the school won't
>>>> swoop in and take the dog, though that's quite a sword to have
>>>> hanging over your head.
>>>>
>>>> If the person does choose to pay a trainer, she should make sure
>>>> the trainer uses methods that she approves of. Not all do.
>>>> Tracy
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Star Gazer"
>>>> <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'"
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2013 9:31 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> But, if the person doesn't own the dog, they can spend all the
>>>>> money in the world and the school can take the dog anyway.
>>>>> It's like renting a house, you can spend a mint to make repairs
>>>>> and it still isn't your house.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or, to put it another way, let's say you meet a hot guy and you
>>>>> hit it off like gangbusters. You move in into his house and you
>>>>> fund a bunch of things to fix the place up. Then he comes home one
>>>>> day and says "I want you out of here". That's what happens if you
don't own your dog.
>>>>> It does no good to spend money and look up dog trainers in a
>>>>> situation like this.
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of
>>>>> barbandzoe at comcast.net
>>>>> Sent: Monday, November 25, 2013 11:36 PM
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
>>>>> Users
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>>>
>>>>> WOW, first, the school tool your dog, do I dare ask witch one, I
>>>>> am looking into getting a dog and I haven't settled on a school yet.
>>>>> Second, this isn't a guide dog issue, it sounds like a dog issue.
>>>>> If you have the money or can find someone who knows dog training
>>>>> to help deal with the dog issue. I would not want the school to
>>>>> take my dog over barking if I could find some help near by. I
>>>>> would look up dog trainers in my area and talk to them and see what
they can do.
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> From: "Abigail Marie Bolling" <violingirl30794 at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 3:45:24 PM
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Barking Puppies!
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>
>>>>> My sweet little Jada has a little bit of a barking issue.
>>>>> Unfortunately, I am a bit hesitant to call my school for help
>>>>> because last time I called because she was barking, they took her
>>>>> away from me for a month...
>>>>>
>>>>> But anyway. Jada barks at doorbells.
>>>>> And not just the house one either.
>>>>> She barks at them during movies, on TV and even the ringtone on
>>>>> the IPhone. (I'm not kidding.)
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tried to incorporate the doorbell on the IPhone into our
>>>>> daily obedience sessions, but it's not seeming to work.
>>>>> I have at least 3 rings before she will lay or sit quietly, then
>>>>> she is fine. But instantaneous doorbells make her bark and I can't
>>>>> seem to break her of them.
>>>>> I've tried grabbing her muzzle and staring her down, I've tried
>>>>> verbal corrections and collar corrections. (I don't think it
>>>>> should warrant a high collar unless she is aggressive but I could
>>>>> be wrong.)
>>>>>
>>>>> She seems to also bark at men for some reason. If a man walks into
>>>>> the Pizza Parlor where I work and Jada is in her crate, she will bark.
>>>>>
>>>>> "Quiet," doesn't really work. She will however go from full bark
>>>>> to belly bark. Should I settle for belly bark as long as it's not
>>>>> distracting?
>>>>>
>>>>> The other thing is that she will bark and whine at other dogs
>>>>> while working in harness, but she will also work past them just
>>>>> pulling a little. (And not necessarily toward the other dog.)
>>>>> Should I just let it go if she is working well?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks, and hopefully I didn't ask too much! :)
>>>>>
>>>>> Abby and Princess Jada
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Abigail Bolling
>>>>> Ohio Association Of Blind Students: Treasurer
>>>>>
>>>>> Email: Abigail.me.bolling94 at gmail.com and
>>>>> violingirl30794 at hotmail.com
>>>>> Phone: 513-258-5043
>>>>> "Dance like no one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt,
>>>>> sing like no one is listening, and live like it's heaven on
>>>>> earth." William Purkey
>>>>>
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Abigail Bolling
Ohio Association Of Blind Students: Treasurer
Email: Abigail.me.bolling94 at gmail.com and violingirl30794 at hotmail.com
Phone: 513-258-5043
"Dance like no one is watching, love like you'll never be hurt, sing like no
one is listening, and live like it's heaven on earth." William Purkey
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