[nagdu] National Epidemic of Horrible People Pretending to BeDisabled |

Wed Oct 16 22:45:50 UTC 2013

Here in CA, our "Handicapped Placards" are issued by the DMV.  Anyone 
misusing them can be reported to the DMV and the disabled person then loses 
their placard.  That's how we deal with it here.

I have one from when I had more foot troubles.  I just keep it renewed 
because lots of times, the people who i might ride in a car with needs it 
more than I do!  Don't know why they don't have their own placard.

Lyn
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Marsha Drenth" <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2013 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Epidemic of Horrible People Pretending to 
BeDisabled |

> Rebecca,
> Just to be clear, she is my EX-sister in law. And I haven't reported her 
> because my state has no official reporting method to turn people in who 
> abuse the system. If there was, then I would.
> I also never said that I was in agreement of certification. Because I am 
> not.
>
>
> Marsha drenth
> Sent with my IPhone
>
> On Oct 15, 2013, at 8:24 AM, "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> Why not turn your sister in law in? Nothing is stopping you from doing 
>> this.
>>
>> I have all kinds of issues with sertification for guide dogs, first who
>> would do it, and what would ensure that the process had integrity? In 
>> places
>> such as New Zealand where guide dogs need to be certified, the school is
>> responsible for handling it. Needless to say, they have no reason to 
>> certify
>> a dog they did not train.
>> Also, I am very much against needing to show id should I use a service 
>> dog.
>> I don't mind showing id if I buy a drink because I am soliciting the
>> interaction, I've decided I want a drink, and I've decided where I will
>> drink it. I know that the waitress or bartender is the one I'm showing my 
>> id
>> to. None of this is true with service dog certification.
>> I also think that showing an id exposes anybody with a service dog to 
>> undue
>> scrutiny. It reminds me a little too much of Germany during the Hitler
>> years.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth
>> Sent: Monday, October 14, 2013 7:26 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] National Epidemic of Horrible People Pretending to 
>> Be
>> Disabled |
>>
>> Marion,
>>
>>
>> I do agree but also disagree. The article is clearly trying to make a 
>> mole
>> hill into a mountain. Darnit I never get those stupid sayings right,
>> anyways. Who ever wrote it is looking for the media hype. The part that I
>> don't agree with is that people do actually use handicapp parking tags in
>> illegal matters. Yes I know that is not guide dog related. But for 
>> example
>> my ex-SIL bought a handicapp tag for her car off of ebay. She is using it
>> now in the state of PA, it drives me crazy, and would love love love to 
>> turn
>> her in. She is not disabled, none of her family is disabled, nor does she
>> have anything to do with me anymore, ie drives me around. She is not the
>> only one I know to use the handicapp parking tags in a illegal way. Yes 
>> the
>> author of this article had a bigger agenda then just the statement of 
>> fake
>> or annoying people. but to push service dog issues.
>> JMO
>>
>>
>> Also by no means am I opening the door for debate in regards to say that
>> blind people need handicapp parking tags..Unfortunately blindness is not 
>> the
>> only disablity I have.
>>
>> Marsha drenth
>> Sent with my IPhone
>>
>> On Oct 14, 2013, at 12:25 PM, "National Association of Guide Dog Users"
>> <blind411 at verizon.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear All,
>>>   I think we should be very skeptical of the flurry of such articles
>>> in the past couple months. Most of them have one thing in common: Most
>>> either refer to or are featuring CCI consumers. CCI is the
>>> organization promoting an online petition to regulate the online sale
>>> of service dog gear and identification.
>>>
>>>   These reports have asserted it is a federal crime to pass a pet off
>>> as a service dog. I find it very interesting, as violation of the ADA
>>> is not a criminal offense, rather, the aDA is a civil law with no
>>> criminal remedies.
>>>
>>>   It is my personal opinion that the prevalence of this sort of
>>> behavior is being intentionally exaggerated in an effort to support
>>> the need for certification. This would only benefit the training
>>> programs, not the disabled community. I am of the opinion that the
>>> best way to counter this issue - if it is really an issue - is to
>>> better educate places of public accommodation about what is really a
>>> service dog and that the rights of the disabled under the ADA are not
>>> absolute, but carry with it specific responsibilities of acceptable
>> behavior.
>>>
>>>   I received a call from a restaurant a couple weeks ago about
>>> someone who came in with an untethered  dog, claiming it was a service
>>> dog. The owner asked if it was a service dog and the patron told her
>>> that it was none of her business and she could not ask any questions
>>> because doing so was a violation of HIPAA. I advised her that she
>>> could and gave her the questions she could ask. I was advised the
>>> patron came in again a couple days later, she asked the right
>>> questions, he again made the same assertions, he was asked to leave,
>>> and he told her he would see her in court. She handed him our brochure 
>>> and
>> told him to give me a call if he had any questions.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> According to the Americans with Disabilities Act, it's a federal crime
>>> to use a fake service animal to take advantage of privileges reserved
>>> for those who genuinely need the assistance of such pets. Nonetheless,
>>> according to a recent report from the Associated Press, the use of
>>> phony "dog tags" is on the rise, with owners faking papers or buying
>>> badges off the Internet just so that they can bring their pooches into
>>> restaurants, shops, and other venues that don't usually allow dogs.
>>> Advocates of both pets and the disabled are divided as to how to
>>> police those who abuse service animal privileges, and some are calling
>>> for federal authorities to better regulate and enforce service animal
>> rules around the country.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> While it's assumed that only a small percentage of the population
>>> would even think of using a faux service dog to avoid leaving a pet
>>> outside a store or at home in order to grab a bite at a restaurant,
>>> even a single incident of phony service dog usage is enough to get
>>> people-disabled and able-bodied alike-up in arms. Outrage followed the
>>> story of a 33-year-old New Yorker named Brett David, who was featured in
>> the New York Post over the summer.
>>> David bragged about bringing his fake "therapy dog" named Napoleon
>>> into movie theaters, restaurants, nightclubs, Whole Foods, Starbucks,
>>> and more mainly because "I was sick of tying up my dog outside," as he 
>>> put
>> it.
>>> "Sometimes, they'll give me a hassle and say bring the papers next
>>> time, but for five bucks, you order [a patch] off eBay, and it works
>>> 90 percent of the time," he explained.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> People like David aren't the only ones pretending to be disabled to
>>> take advantage of special perks. In late September, the Walt Disney
>>> Company felt compelled to change its disabled guest policy at theme
>>> parks partly due to "abuse of the system." The announcement came after
>>> reports surfaced that wealthy guests were paying wheelchair-riding
>>> tour guides top dollar so that the group could use the line-skipping
>>> privileges granted to the disabled at Disney theme parks.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Meanwhile, over the years, police around the U.S. periodically engage
>>> in sweeps to round up drivers fraudulently using handicapped parking
>>> passes, and apparently it's pretty easy to snag people abusing the
>>> system. Last spring, over the course of a mere four hours, authorities
>>> in Oakland, Calif., confiscated 13 handicapped placards being used
>> illegally by drivers.
>>> That's out of a total of 70 placards they came across, meaning nearly
>>> one in five was fraudulent.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> A report in Seattle published over the summer estimated that one in
>>> eight drivers using disabled parking placards is doing so
>>> fraudulently, costing the city $1.4 million annually. Like in Seattle,
>>> drivers with such placards get to park for free in Providence, R.I.,
>>> where it just so happens that there has been an influx of cars with
>>> disabled parking passes near train stations and bus stops. Police
>>> began routinely demanding verification and handed out multiple $500
>>> fines to those who were using passes registered to someone else. "Not
>>> only is it an affront to the persons who have a disability and need
>>> the space, they're cheating the city out of revenue by parking there," 
>>> one
>> Providence police officer said of the offenders.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In yet another sting, in Orlando, Fla., police zeroed in on offenders
>>> like a 34-year-old woman using a placard registered to someone who was
>>> 85, and who had died a few months prior to the bust. Apparently, the
>>> driver, arrested just before 3 a.m., was using the placard in order to
>>> park in a convenient handicap spot downtown-so that her car was nearby
>> when the bars closed.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Suspicions of disabled placard abuse have gotten so bad in New
>>> Jersey-where more than 500,000 people have special placard and license
>>> plate privileges-that the state introduced tougher regulations last
>>> spring. In the past, anyone who classified for a pass could renew
>>> automatically every three years. As of August 1, though, drivers must
>>> submit proof of their condition every three years before they're
>>> granted special privileges. Disabled parking placards were also
>>> redesigned so that it is easier for police and meter checkers to see
>>> expiration dates, and so that it's more difficult for drivers to
>> unlawfully change the information on the passes.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Tuttle @bradrtuttle
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Brad Tuttle covers business and personal finance for TIME. He lives in
>>> Massachusetts with his wife and four sons, and also teaches journalism
>>> at UMass-Amherst.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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