[nagdu] Identifying dogs reaching a common ground

[Julie J.]

I think you are wanting some sort of guarantee that a service dog from a 
program is always going to behave appropriately or always work out for the 
handler.  I'm sorry, but this just isn't the case.  The programs don't 
always get it right.

I don't understand nuclear fission, but that doesn't mean it's impossible or 
that it's a bad idea.  It just means that my education took a different 
path.  a single person cannot understand all there is to know.  Wisdom comes 
in understanding that lack of knowledge does not preclude possibility.   If 
we limited ourselves to only that which we know, then invention would be 
absent and we'd all still be living in caves.

I don't know how long you've been a member of this list, but I've been very 
transparent about how I've selected my dogs, the failures, the successes, 
how exactly I've managed to teach specific tasks and most recently my 
adventure in having a guide privately trained.  The archives to this list 
are available publically.  Perhaps there might be answers to your questions 
there?

Julie


-----Original Message----- 
From: Bridget Walker
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 11:17 PM
To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: [nagdu] Identifying dogs reaching a common ground

Hi All,

I have some thoughts after following the threads. in my opinion A service 
dog should be trained by an actual program. Yes that's right I said it. It's 
not the harness or the vest that makes the dog it is the training. I do not 
know how anyone can pick a random dog, train it on their own without being a 
trainer and call it a service animal. Until someone informs me of how a dog 
that is not trained by an actual trainer gets identified as a service dog 
I'm sorry I personally can find a reason why there can be conflicts.
I fully believe the dogs the guide dog schools breed and train  are what 
make the dog. The early socialization and introductions the puppies get is 
crucial and it should all be done a specific way. With that I think this war 
over fake verses  legit service dogs is beating a dead horse.  I think there 
most definitely needs to be some kind of certification process for the dogs 
that are not trained from an actual program. If I could just train my pet as 
a guide dog is that really ok? I asked a while back who evaluates these dogs 
and I never got an answer. I don't think it can be just anyone who should 
make the call over what makes a good service dog  that is what  a trainer. 
Training school is for.
Ok a bit off topic there but really I think there is a reason we have 
training programs and ID cards. Do we need them by law? No, but maybe we 
just might at the rate everything is going.
There are people that take for granted a lot of opportunities including 
this. I would still like to maintain the ability to travel   with a service 
dog as a right not a privilege.
This is not designed. to say this goes to the fault of anyone specific 
because if we knew why there was such a conflict I am sure we would be 
acting on it.
I leave it at that.

Bridget



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