[nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy

Larry D. Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Wed Apr 30 01:02:59 UTC 2014 

You know that's right! Holly knows everyone loves her! How could you not! 
That is what she gets in trouble for most is visiting!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "sheila" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy


> withTres it doesn't really matter if someone called him by name or not. He 
> loves people and believes that the world of people are existing just for 
> the purpose of meeting him. His name is used by me for the purpose of 
> reminding him to pay attention. I know that in his mind he would feel okay 
> about trying to meet and greet without even being called. His  need to be 
> petted is something that I use by doing it frequently myself and it helps 
> him not to want it from others as much.
> On 4/29/2014 7:42 AM, The Pawpower Pack wrote:
>> With Soleil, I have used petting as a practice time for self control. 
>> She loves people, and right at first, I knew that I was going to just 
>> have to restrict all petting, or use the petting as an exercise.  Since 
>> I'm Deafblind, people tend to just pet because they are not getting my 
>> attention with me by asking unless I'm with a hearing person.
>> So if I have time to allow petting, I first tell her down. I tell the 
>> person wanting to pet that she can only be pet in a down and that if she 
>> gets up, they are to stop, I thank them for helping me with her training, 
>> so they feel good.  They pet her and then in mid pet I ask her to come 
>> away and touch my hand and click and treat.  She is a lab, so would 
>> rather eat than lay and get petted.  And her getting up ends the session. 
>> If people pet without asking she will turn to me.
>> My coworkers and friends also help in this exercise as well.
>> Because I'm Deafblind and a lot of my friends are deafblind, and I work 
>> with deafblind children, she has to learn to be touched without coming 
>> unhinged with joy.  Deafblind people are a pretty tactile lot and if a 
>> deafblind child has never seen a guide dog, they can look at her— with 
>> their hands— and learn.  So far, Soleil's doing really well!
>>
>>   Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
>> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
>> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:41 AM, "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Generally I just say, "No, but thank you for asking." I smile and make 
>>> it seem like them asking was a wonderful thing.  Then I move on. 
>>> Standing there will encourage a discussion or debate or whatever, moving 
>>> on indicates that you don't want to discuss your no petting rule and it 
>>> also reinforces that you need to get stuff done and don't have time for 
>>> petting.
>>>
>>> I do allow petting on occasion.  If I do I let the person know it's up 
>>> to Monty if he wants to be petted.  I give Monty his release cue and let 
>>> him approach if he wants.  Usually he will give the person a perfunctory 
>>> sniff and he's done.  Every now and then he will back away from the 
>>> person, which is kind of embarrassing, but they get it that he doesn't 
>>> want to be petted. He's not very into meet and greet with people though, 
>>> so this works.
>>>
>>> Last week I was in the grocery store and there was a Mom with about four 
>>> kids.  The kids wanted to pet Monty and asked their Mom.  Usually 
>>> parents just say the dog is working and leave it alone, but this Mom 
>>> went on a complete tirade.  I thought the kids were perfectly well 
>>> behaved in asking their Mom first if they could approach me to ask if 
>>> they could pet, but Mom really lit into them.  Then she was on to 
>>> another topic and how horrible the kids were and on and on  and on.  So 
>>> about four isles later I asked one of the kids if he would like to pet 
>>> the dog.  It made the kids day.  I can't remember the last time I've 
>>> offered petting to a kid, but I really felt bad for them.
>>>
>>> When I talk to people about guide dogs or if I'm doing a presentation or 
>>> something, I always stress that dogs are different and people are 
>>> different, but asking is always okay.  the answer might be no but 
>>> politely asking and respecting the answer is good.  It's interesting 
>>> that I rarely have issues with kids.  It's adults that have issues with 
>>> self control.
>>>
>>> Julie
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Darla Rogers
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:36 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>
>>> Thank you Raven and Michael; I believe, and several others have also 
>>> states
>>> this practice, just not to allow it while we are out working.
>>> I don't owe the general public anything; if they want to pet a dog,
>>> the shelters are crying for volunteers to socialize their dogs; on the 
>>> other
>>> hand, if it raises money for my school. <tongue firmly in cheek>
>>> Very Gratefully,
>>> Darla & Handsome Huck
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
>>> Hingson
>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:40 AM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I do not permit anyone to pet Africa while she is in harness.  If people
>>> want to pet her and I have the time I will remove her harness and then 
>>> allow
>>> petting.  If I do not have time I politely explain that while the 
>>> harness is
>>> on she is working and cannot be petted and that I do not have time to 
>>> remove
>>> it now.  Especially when people go along with my wishes I thank them 
>>> very
>>> much.  If people still insist on petting Africa I will get more stern.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>>
>>> Michael Hingson
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:22 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>
>>> Hi everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>                The Handsome Huck is a people magnet and peo9ple are 
>>> magnets
>>> for him; there is some petting--last time going through a revolving
>>> door--and I used to let him sit and be petted, but I don't believe this 
>>> is
>>> in the best interest of our working relationship?
>>>
>>>                Any ideas?  Strategies?  Explanations?
>>>
>>> Darla & Mister Socialite
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Darla J. Rogers
>>>
>>> djrogers0628 at gmail.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
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