[nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy

sheila sleigland at bresnan.net
Wed Apr 30 05:55:17 UTC 2014 

larry I have come to the conclusion that with Tres it all comes with the 
territory. Love makes the world go round don't you know.
On 4/29/2014 7:02 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
> You know that's right! Holly knows everyone loves her! How could you 
> not! That is what she gets in trouble for most is visiting!
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "sheila" <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
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> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 8:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
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>> withTres it doesn't really matter if someone called him by name or 
>> not. He loves people and believes that the world of people are 
>> existing just for the purpose of meeting him. His name is used by me 
>> for the purpose of reminding him to pay attention. I know that in his 
>> mind he would feel okay about trying to meet and greet without even 
>> being called. His need to be petted is something that I use by doing 
>> it frequently myself and it helps him not to want it from others as 
>> much.
>> On 4/29/2014 7:42 AM, The Pawpower Pack wrote:
>>> With Soleil, I have used petting as a practice time for self 
>>> control. She loves people, and right at first, I knew that I was 
>>> going to just have to restrict all petting, or use the petting as an 
>>> exercise.  Since I'm Deafblind, people tend to just pet because they 
>>> are not getting my attention with me by asking unless I'm with a 
>>> hearing person.
>>> So if I have time to allow petting, I first tell her down. I tell 
>>> the person wanting to pet that she can only be pet in a down and 
>>> that if she gets up, they are to stop, I thank them for helping me 
>>> with her training, so they feel good.  They pet her and then in mid 
>>> pet I ask her to come away and touch my hand and click and treat.  
>>> She is a lab, so would rather eat than lay and get petted.  And her 
>>> getting up ends the session. If people pet without asking she will 
>>> turn to me.
>>> My coworkers and friends also help in this exercise as well.
>>> Because I'm Deafblind and a lot of my friends are deafblind, and I 
>>> work with deafblind children, she has to learn to be touched without 
>>> coming unhinged with joy.  Deafblind people are a pretty tactile lot 
>>> and if a deafblind child has never seen a guide dog, they can look 
>>> at her— with their hands— and learn.  So far, Soleil's doing really 
>>> well!
>>>
>>>   Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
>>> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
>>> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Apr 29, 2014, at 6:41 AM, "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Generally I just say, "No, but thank you for asking." I smile and 
>>>> make it seem like them asking was a wonderful thing.  Then I move 
>>>> on. Standing there will encourage a discussion or debate or 
>>>> whatever, moving on indicates that you don't want to discuss your 
>>>> no petting rule and it also reinforces that you need to get stuff 
>>>> done and don't have time for petting.
>>>>
>>>> I do allow petting on occasion.  If I do I let the person know it's 
>>>> up to Monty if he wants to be petted.  I give Monty his release cue 
>>>> and let him approach if he wants. Usually he will give the person a 
>>>> perfunctory sniff and he's done.  Every now and then he will back 
>>>> away from the person, which is kind of embarrassing, but they get 
>>>> it that he doesn't want to be petted. He's not very into meet and 
>>>> greet with people though, so this works.
>>>>
>>>> Last week I was in the grocery store and there was a Mom with about 
>>>> four kids.  The kids wanted to pet Monty and asked their Mom.  
>>>> Usually parents just say the dog is working and leave it alone, but 
>>>> this Mom went on a complete tirade.  I thought the kids were 
>>>> perfectly well behaved in asking their Mom first if they could 
>>>> approach me to ask if they could pet, but Mom really lit into 
>>>> them.  Then she was on to another topic and how horrible the kids 
>>>> were and on and on  and on.  So about four isles later I asked one 
>>>> of the kids if he would like to pet the dog.  It made the kids 
>>>> day.  I can't remember the last time I've offered petting to a kid, 
>>>> but I really felt bad for them.
>>>>
>>>> When I talk to people about guide dogs or if I'm doing a 
>>>> presentation or something, I always stress that dogs are different 
>>>> and people are different, but asking is always okay.  the answer 
>>>> might be no but politely asking and respecting the answer is good.  
>>>> It's interesting that I rarely have issues with kids.  It's adults 
>>>> that have issues with self control.
>>>>
>>>> Julie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message----- From: Darla Rogers
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 1:36 AM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Raven and Michael; I believe, and several others have 
>>>> also states
>>>> this practice, just not to allow it while we are out working.
>>>> I don't owe the general public anything; if they want to pet a dog,
>>>> the shelters are crying for volunteers to socialize their dogs; on 
>>>> the other
>>>> hand, if it raises money for my school. <tongue firmly in cheek>
>>>> Very Gratefully,
>>>> Darla & Handsome Huck
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael 
>>>> Hingson
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:40 AM
>>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I do not permit anyone to pet Africa while she is in harness.  If 
>>>> people
>>>> want to pet her and I have the time I will remove her harness and 
>>>> then allow
>>>> petting.  If I do not have time I politely explain that while the 
>>>> harness is
>>>> on she is working and cannot be petted and that I do not have time 
>>>> to remove
>>>> it now.  Especially when people go along with my wishes I thank 
>>>> them very
>>>> much.  If people still insist on petting Africa I will get more stern.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Michael Hingson
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Darla 
>>>> Rogers
>>>> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2014 10:22 PM
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Changing my Petting Policy
>>>>
>>>> Hi everyone,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                The Handsome Huck is a people magnet and peo9ple are 
>>>> magnets
>>>> for him; there is some petting--last time going through a revolving
>>>> door--and I used to let him sit and be petted, but I don't believe 
>>>> this is
>>>> in the best interest of our working relationship?
>>>>
>>>>                Any ideas?  Strategies?  Explanations?
>>>>
>>>> Darla & Mister Socialite
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Darla J. Rogers
>>>>
>>>> djrogers0628 at gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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