[nagdu] Guide dogs and teacher observations

Star Gazer pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
Wed Aug 6 11:46:49 UTC 2014 

		Why are you letting children dictate what you do with your
dog? That's not appropriate. Bring her if you'd like, don't bring her if you
don't want to, but whatever you do, be the adult. The special ed kids have
no more authority or right tto shape your behavior as "normal" children do. 


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle Burton
via nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 9:22 AM
To: Julie J.
Cc: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and teacher observations

I'm thinking if I'm placed in a regular education classroom this semester
I'll just take her but if I do any Special Ed I'll probably leave her for
the first time so I can find out if any of the students will have any issues
I think that will work out best. I'd like to get a portable mesh type crate
for her a can't seem to find any. If anyone on here knows Where I can get
one that would be great. 
Danielle and Willa 


> On Aug 5, 2014, at 9:15 AM, "Julie J." <julielj at neb.rr.com> wrote:
> 
> I'm getting that you are quite a bit concerned about this.  what if you
left your guide at home?  Or took a portable crate and left her in an office
away from the kids?  then you could get a feel for what's going on and
decide whether or not to bring her next time or how it could work.
Sometimes there just isn't enough information to make a decision in advance.
> 
> Julie
> 
> 
> -----Original Message----- From: Danielle Burton via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2014 8:07 AM
> To: Tracy Carcione ; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of 
> Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and teacher observations
> 
> Tracey, thank you for sharing your experience. While in a regular
education classroom a child that fears dogs can be easily handled I'm not
sure what to do in a special Ed classrooom with children with severe
disabilities. The presence of a dog could throw a child with autism off for
the entire day.
> 
> Danielle and Willa
> 
> 
>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 8:57 AM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Danielle.
>> I did teacher observations a long time ago.  I don't recall having 
>> any access problems, though some of the kids in the inner city school 
>> where I was were scared of my dog.  They just kept their distance.
>> I think, as in many things, confidence can make a difference.  If I 
>> walk in as if I have every right to be there and I don't expect any 
>> trouble, I usually don't get any.  If I go in timid and appologetic, 
>> people might be more inclined to try and push me around.  Not that 
>> one has to be an arrogant so-and-so, but calm self-assurance goes a 
>> long way, in my experience.
>> Good luck.  My teacher observations convinced me I wasn't cut out for 
>> the job.
>> Tracy
>> 
>>> I have never had the issue of alergies address yet. I just got my 
>>> dog in Jye so this is all still new to me. And yes, Nicole I think 
>>> the rules would be different in a school system than in public where 
>>> they can't tell you to leave because someone is alergic and 
>>> thinglike that. I haven't started classes yet so haven't encountered 
>>> the issues yet. And I'm sure it's different in a Special Education 
>>> classroom. I do plan on talking to my professors about it but I also 
>>> wanted to ask other guide dog users about their experiences.
>>> 
>>> Danielle and Willa
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 5, 2014, at 6:01 AM, Star Gazer via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>          Also remember that schools have real good ventilation 
>>>> systems. Kids are germ factories and if schools weren't ventilated 
>>>> well, everybody would be dead or home sick all the time.
>>>> I suggest you take this as an opportunity to learn about a real 
>>>> world problem and address it with your instructors. That's why they're
their.
>>>> Also know that a lot of schools have dogs on the premises now, 
>>>> mostly in the counceling and other therapy areas. If they can be 
>>>> there, so can yours.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Diane 
>>>> via nagdu
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2014 1:05 AM
>>>> To: 'Danielle Burton'; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National 
>>>> Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and teacher observations
>>>> 
>>>> Danielle,
>>>> 
>>>> First tell me how you address the allergy issue with your college 
>>>> classmates, persons on board the airplane you are flying on, or 
>>>> persons in your church?
>>>> 
>>>> Diane
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Danielle 
>>>> Burton via nagdu
>>>> Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 7:42 PM
>>>> To: Star Gazer
>>>> Cc: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Guide dogs and teacher observations
>>>> 
>>>> They apparently do, but I am still at the beginning of the teacher 
>>>> program so I haven't had training on that yet. Just general stuff 
>>>> and some observation in a Kindergarten class. But that still 
>>>> doesn't solve the problem with kids having alergies.
>>>> 
>>>> Danielle and Willa
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 4, 2014, at 10:07 PM, "Star Gazer" 
>>>>>> <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>     Maybe a dumb question, but if you're a special ed major, don't 
>>>>> they teach you how to deal with a child that is frightened or well 
>>>>> has other special needs?
>>>>> My suggestion is to get a portable crate, set it up and put the 
>>>>> dog in there.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of 
>>>>> Danielle Burton via nagdu
>>>>> Sent: Sunday, August 3, 2014 7:59 PM
>>>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
>>>>> Subject: [nagdu] Guide dogs and teacher observations
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all: I am an education major and I have some questions about 
>>>>> having a guide dog when doing teacher observations. For all you 
>>>>> teachers out there how did you do it with a dog? Also, I will be 
>>>>> in Special education classrooms. How do I handle that situation? 
>>>>> What if a child is alergic to dogs? Or frightened? I know when I 
>>>>> get my own classroom it will be easier because my pup can just lay 
>>>>> under my desk op behind it but that's a long way away. Any advice 
>>>>> on what works and what doesn't and how school staff accommoadte would
be helpful.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Danielle and Willa
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