[nagdu] Relieving in and out of harness WAS Re: My guy dog: introduction

melissa R green graduate56 at juno.com
Wed Aug 20 18:53:21 UTC 2014


I have to say that I have let my girl go in harness.  Sometimes you aren't
able to stop and take the harness off.  


Melissa R Green and Pj
Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Ashley Coleman
via nagdu
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 10:04 AM
To: Daryl Marie; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog
Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Relieving in and out of harness WAS Re: My guy dog:
introduction

I agree with Rox. That seems to be an extra step. Usually, with Landon has
to go while we are out. He's gotta go as soon as possible. He waits to tell
me until The last possible second, and there's not time to take off his
harness. Yes, the school did tell me that when he relieves to take off his
harness, but with him, it's not possible. 


Ashley Coleman, 



> On Aug 20, 2014, at 10:35, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> I wonder if part of the logic of removing the harness is that the dog is
not in public places without the harness.  In harness, for example, the dog
is not to get super sniffy, but most dogs do a bit of sniffing before
relieving, so maybe this sends mixed messages to the dog?
> 
> it took me about six months to be able to fully grasp Jenny's "I have to
goooooo!" signals. She has only ever done her business once in harness, on a
public sidewalk, when I was just not paying attention to the signals. it has
been the only time she has ever done such a thing.
> 
> When I first brought Jenny home, she actually relieved downstairs in the
basement. I was horrified, the trainer was puzzled, and we started putting
up a screen over the top of the basement stairs.
> 
> We have a couple of theories here:
> 1) The cats litter box is downstairs, so perhaps Jenny thinks relieving is
acceptable?
> 2) The previous owners of our house had rabbits, a dog, etc., and we know
they kept the dog in one room of the house. The dog peed on the floor so
much that that room only has a subfloor. We aren't sure if the dog relieved
in the basement, but those people were real slobs, so nothing surprises us.
> 
> In any event... Clare, congratulations on your new dog... he sounds
sooooooo young! 15 months? WOW!
> 
> All the best!
> 
> Daryl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Dan Weiner via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: clarebearwest at gmail.com, 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association
of Guide Dog Users' <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Wed, 20 Aug 2014 07:25:11 -0600 (MDT)
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] My guy dog: introduction
> 
> First of all, my heartiest congratulations to you on your being matched
with
> the Quincy Boy.
> What a cute sounding dog.
> He still I'm sure has a lot of puppy in him but I am sure he'll settle
down.
> Now as far as relieving in harness.
> One big problem is that the schools don't teach the dogs to pull over or
to
> do anything to indicate the need to relieve.
> What I think your main goal should be is not to think he will just stop
> needing to go while walking,   but to try to learn his signs and give him
> extra times while walking and reward him a lot for going to the bathroom
> when you want him too and not just stopping in the middle and plop plop
fizz
> fizz--smile.
> Some dogs speed up, some slow down, some start sniffing more, some pull
over
> to the side, during a walk try to stop at several good places and get him
to
> relieve and act like the lottery was just won if he does what he needs to
do
> then.
> 
> I have never agreed with the position that the harness is a natural urine
> and defecation inhibitor...dogs walk and their system is stimulated and
> things happen.
> 
> Good luck.
> 
> Here's what I'm thinking, figure out when during the walk this happens,
try
> him several times around that time and get him hopefully to have the paws,
> or is it pause that refreshes.
> 
> 
> Dan the man, Parker the dog
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Clare Westlund
> via nagdu
> Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 8:52 AM
> To: nagdu at nfbnet.org
> Subject: [nagdu] My guy dog: introduction
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone hi everyone! I return home this past day. I spent the
> last 3 1/2 weeks in Columbus Ohio at pilot dogs. I received a 75 pound
male
> golden retriever named Quincy! And I are doing wonderfully. He's good work
> has been stellar except for the fact that he is unsure trashbags and he
> loves to pick up leaves. To play with his bone and spin in circles and
> chases tail! He is only 15 months old! He has a tendency to poop in
harness.
> I am trying to figure out why that is. Perhaps it is stress? I am not
sure.
> He only pooped in once while in training with me on the walk.
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