[nagdu] Relieving in and out of harness WAS Re: Myguydog:introduction

[Nicole Torcolini]

For clarification, I was not talking about knowing that they are not
supposed as much as having to. Even if the dog knows that he/she is not
supposed to relieve in harness, if the dog really has to go, there is not
much that the dog can do besides go. Yes, I do agree, though, that some dogs
might not go when given the opportunity and then kind of set themselves up
for trouble or just decide to go even though they don't really need to, in
which case a correction would be appropriate. Hope that that made sense that
time.

Nicole

-----Original Message-----
From: debby phillips [mailto:semisweetdebby at gmail.com] 
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 9:07 PM
To: Nicole Torcolini; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
Dog Users; loriandleo at ohiohills.com; nagdu at nfbnet.org
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Relieving in and out of harness WAS Re:
Myguydog:introduction

Hi Nicole, I respectfully disagree.  I think they do know when they poop or
pee when they're not supposed to.  I have had issues with this dog, more
than any of my dogs going while we're out walking.  A couple days ago, I
gave her plenty of time to park, and she didn't.  Whenever she does go in an
appropriate place, I praise her.  So this day, she didn't go when I gave her
plenty of opportunity.  Suddenly as we were walking, she was in her poop
position.  I did not leash correct her, only verbal.  Since then, she has
not pooped on any of our trips.  Now, that doesn't mean she won't ever ever
again, but I believe that what I said had an 
impact on her.  But who knows? I could be totally wrong.    Debby 
and Neena