[nagdu] Pilot test walk

Tue Aug 26 18:48:39 UTC 2014

Personally, I think this is reasonable for experienced handlers. I
know if I had to do something like this as a first time guide dog
handler, that would have added to the stress that I was already
experiencing. I understand that training with a new dog is stressful.
But as a first time handler, I recall being incredibly stressed about
understanding my dog's body language, properly moving with my dog,
losing tactile feedback and figuring out different ways to regain
that. If I ever return to a program, I wouldn't mind this at all, and
I think it would be perfectly reasonable. But if I had to have done
something like that my first go-round, I would have struggled greatly.

On 8/26/14, Julie J. via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> How did you find someone knowledgeable in the CGC and ADI testing?  I'd like
> to do this, but I'm guessing I'll have to travel to a bigger city.   I have
> a couple of trips to Lincoln and Omaha coming up, so perhaps I could do the
> testing while I'm there.
>
> Julie
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: The Pawpower Pack via nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:44 PM
> To: Tracy Carcione ; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide
> Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Pilot test walk
>
> I do this at the end of my dogs training. When I feel like she and I are
> ready, I go to an unfamiliar environment, take unfamiliar buses and have
> someone experienced go behind and give me feedback at the end.  This time it
> was an unfamiliar trainer who scored both Soleil's CGC and her ADI Public
> Access test both of which she passed.
> I think this is a great idea for a program team as well because it lets the
> handler of a program trained dog have the full responsibility of navigating
> and problem solving.
>
>
> Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Aug 26, 2014, at 12:30 PM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Chantel.
>> How does Pilot's new test walk work?  Do they set up situations and see
>> how you deal with them?  Things like strange dog barking, or what?
>>
>> I thought actually having to go somewhere by yourself and get something
>> was a good, practical kind of test. I wouldn't mind having to do something
>>
>> like that at the end of training.  Go to the liquor store, without
>> breaking any bottles, and buy some beer to share with the class.  My kind
>> of training test.
>> Tracy
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chantel Cuddemi via nagdu"
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'Tracy Carcione'" <carcione at access.net>; "'NAGDU Mailing List,the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 12:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school rejecting application
>>
>>
>>> You are correct, Tracy
>>>
>>> Pilot Dogs now has changed their achievement walk.
>>>
>>> When I first got Motley, we had to go in to a store and buy something.
>>> Now, Pilot has it to where it's all about procedures and how you handle
>>> your dog in certain situations.
>>>
>>> Also, they use different harnesses now. I got to see some when I was in
>>> brushup training.
>>>
>>> Chantel.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy Carcione
>>>
>>> via nagdu
>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2014 11:09 AM
>>> To: starmy22 at gmail.com; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>>> Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] guide dog school rejecting application
>>>
>>> I gather, from what some Pilot graduates have said, that Pilot usually
>>> doesn't reject anyone's application.  Instead, they give a test at the
>>> end of training.  If you pass, you go home with the dog, otherwise not.
>>> The test is whether you and your dog can successfully get through a
>>> particular route without any help from the trainer.
>>> Tracy
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "starmy22--- via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> To: <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 4:49 PM
>>> Subject: [nagdu] guide dog school rejecting application
>>>
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I have a question: I've applied to three schools. Guide dogs of America,
>>>> Guide Dogs of the Desert and Pilot Dogs.
>>>> What would be some of the reasons why  one of those schools would not
>>>> allow me to take part in there guide dog training program?
>>>> I hope to hear from you soon.
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>> John Sanders
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