[nagdu] puppy follow!

L Gwizdak leg1950 at cox.net
Fri Aug 29 19:19:12 UTC 2014


Hi Abby,
Here's my thoughts as a long-time handler (most years from 1973-2014).  Each 
dog is an individual and needs to be handled in a manner best for that one 
dog.  This is why we must go train with each new dog we get.  We need to 
learn each new dog we get.

The water issue and all the needing to relieve:  Landon was a water tanker 
if I let him!  I decided on his water intake based on where we were going, 
how hot and dry was it out, any medication he may be on, time of day.  I 
always had control of the water by putting in the bowl what I was going to 
give him based on the above considerations.  What goes in the dog must come 
out at some point!  If you have your dog on any steriods for itching, that 
causes the dog to drink more and urinate more.

As for making the time to give water, food, or relieving opportunities, this 
is something you can never be too busy to do.  This can be done around your 
school schedule.  Yoou need a bathroom or drink break, give it to the dog. 
Bring a callapseable bowl and give some water when you are in the restroom. 
If your dog is just lying next to you during classes, he won't need alot to 
drink and therefore, you can relieve before or after class.  When you have a 
dog, time just has to be made for it.  Having a guide dog is a lifestyle 
that differs from using a cane.  It is a lifestyle that can be very 
compatable to a busy student lifestyle.

When I'm going to be out all day and way into the evening, I bring a ration 
of food for my dog.  I find a restroom and feed and water the dog around the 
dog's regular dinner time.  It really isn't hard to keep to the dog's 
schedule even when real busy!

Keep to a schedule for water and food as much as possible.  Youor dog's body 
will adjust and you will be able to gauge when your dog needs to go and what 
the dog will do at each park time for the most part.  Make sure you have 
poop bags handy at all time for the unexpected present!  HTH!

For booties, YES do use them if you are doing standing or slow walking on 
blacktop (as in walking around at a street fair type thing).  Crossing 
streets shouldn't be a problem.  I live in San Diego and it gets hot in the 
summer and fall.  My dogs can walk fine under ordinary walking situations. 
I don't know your area and walking conditions.  But put your palm on the 
street and see how long you can keep it flat on the street.  If you are 
pulling your hand away like ouch, booties will be more comfortable for your 
dog.  This works for my dog.

About transitioning from home to school dorm, just treat that change just 
like you did when you came home after guide dog school.  Do your obedience 
to remind the dog who is boss.  Be clear in your own knowledge of the area 
you travel in.  Sometimes what is good to do is to do it with a cane and 
heeling the dog.  That helps the dog learn routes.

Hope all this helps and good luck!

Lyn still waiting for a dog match!
"Asking who's the man and who's the woman in an LGBT relationship is like 
asking which chopstick is the fork" - Unknown
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Abigail Bolling via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "melissa R green" <graduate56 at juno.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the 
National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] puppy follow!


Jada does seem to be taking excessive amounts of water lately.  and call her 
away from the water bowl. She is now used to having a self refilling water 
bowl which holds about 2 and a half gallons.
Should I take that away her and put her back on a watering schedule? the 
only problem with that is my schedule is so dynamic during the school week 
that scheduling water not will only be difficult, but nearly impossible.
Thoughts anyone?

The other thing thatI’m doing now is when I am getting ready for classes/bed 
I put her in her crate so she can’t run around. 9I’m so glad I was able to 
get her out of her closterphobic fear! :)

My final question is, is it appropriate to put boots on my pup if she is 
walking on blacktop? Someone told me at some point that dogs sweat through 
the pads of their feet, and I don’t want her to over heat. But on the flip 
side, I don’t want her trying to hop because the blacktop is so hot right 
now!

Thanks all for answering my questions. All advice is really appreciated, 
even if it seems negative, I respect everyone’s opinion! :)

Thanks All

Abby

Abigail Bolling
Wright State University: Social Work
“Keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let the music 
play.” (Julie Anderson-Diamond)

On Aug 28, 2014, at 5:48 PM, melissa R green via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
wrote:

> I have gotten up many times in the night and taken Pj out.  She doesn't 
> even
> say anything and I know I have to take her out.
> Abby if she is relieving a lot.  Check her food and her water intake. 
> There
> could be other reasons as well like heat and so on.  Good luck.
>
> Melissa R Green and Pj
> Failure is not fatal, but failure to change might be
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer 
> via
> nagdu
> Sent: Monday, August 25, 2014 12:09 PM
> To: Raven Tolliver; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide
> Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] puppy follow!
>
> Raven,
>
> Just because you haven't seen a dog let its handler know that he or she
> needs to relieve itself doesn't mean it doesn't happen. It may not happen
> often, but to say you don't believe what Abby says is condescending and
> disrespectful. I'm currently working my third guide, and there have been
> just a couple of times he has relieved in the house without giving me any
> signal that he needed to go out. You can say you don't believe me too, but 
> I
> don't take kindly to being called a liar. Things can happen that you,
> personally,  are not aware of.
>
> Abby, is it possible for you to keep your girl on leash with you for a 
> bit,
> even when you're not actually working her? You might also keep track of 
> how
> much she is eating/drinking and, if it's more than usual, you might have 
> to
> take her out a bit more often, or ration her water if peeing indoors 
> becomes
> an issue.
>
> Shannon and the Acelet
> On Aug 25, 2014, at 1:28 PM, Raven Tolliver via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Abby,
>> I really don't believe that your dog did not let you know that she
>> needed to go out. I have never seen a dog just wake up, get up, or
>> walk inside, and just squat to poop. I'm thinking you didn't notice
>> her signals. Maybe you thought she was having trouble settling. Or
>> maybe you thought she was begging, when she actually was trying to get
>> your attention to take her out. My only advice is to put your dog on a
>> relief schedule if she isn't already on one, and also pay closer
>> attention to where your dog is and what she is doing since you guys
>> have switched home and working environments for the school year.
>> Changes in environment certainly bring about changes in behavior and
>> routines.
>> As for following other people, it is your responsibility to know where
>> you are and where your dog is taking you. I understand that sometimes,
>> we just get lost. But I feel that the handler is just as responsible
>> as the dog. When your dog takes you off route, you must find ways to
>> recognize when you are on route, and when you are not. This way, you
>> can take care of things right away when your dog is distracted. As
>> someone who works a dog with a moderate to strong dog distraction, I
>> understand how easy it is to get turned around or lost because my dog
>> was distracted. But I also understand the importance of keeping my dog
>> focused, and ensuring that I know whether we are going the right way
>> or not. It is up to you to find ways to keep your princess focused on
>> her work. Perhaps taking a break to do a brief or shortened obedience
>> session will do the trick. Or just stop and have her sit for 10
>> seconds. Afterward, have her stand, and cue her to touch a couple
>> times and reward her, to ensure she is focused. These are just a
>> couple things you can do to get her back on track.
>>
>> On 8/25/14, Abigail Bolling via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> Hi all!
>>> I just moved back in to school and Jada has been acting a little
> strangely!
>>>
>>>
>>> On Saturday for instance, she didn't  let me know she had to use the
>>> restroom, and she pooped in the middle of my apartment living room.
>>> I noticed only because she was hiding in her crate and was very 
>>> reluctant
> to
>>> -every to me.
>>>
>>> This morning, we were walking to my first class and instead of taking 
>>> the
>>> route we learned and I was directing her to, she decided to follow
> everyone
>>> else instead of listening to my -mands. I got turned around and decided
> to
>>> just let her take me in to the nearest building so I could figure out
> where
>>> I was.
>>> My crazy dog happened to lead  me in to the building that I actually
> needed!
>>> It was crazy!
>>>
>>> Anyway, Anyone have any advice for either of these two problems?
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>> Abby and Princess Jada
>>>
>>> Abigail Bolling
>>> Wright State University: Social Work
>>> "Keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let the
> music
>>> play." (Julie Anderson Diamond)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>> -- 
>> Raven
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