[nagdu] They know the dog is working?

Mon Dec 29 18:05:59 UTC 2014

Abby said this happened at her mother's workplace.  She also said her
mother worked there for many years.  They probably knew Abby as a
child and transitioning from a child to adult is very difficult with
our family and friends.  I like the idea of taking the harness off and
giving petting time and explain that the harness will be off during a
certain time.  When the harness goes back on there is no longer any
petting allowed.  Now comes the hard part.  There will be some people
who cannot come during the "harness off" time.  You will still need to
make the rule stick.  You can say something like, "I am sorry you
missed it this time but I hope you can make it next time."  If you let
the rules go for one person then the rule no longer applies for anyone
and I think many of us have a problem with that one.

On 12/29/14, Cindy Ray via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Of course I think this is part of the problem. These folks want to pet your
> dog; they know the dog is working, and yet they want to pet. If you take
> the
> harness off, they can. Often though this is simply not an option. I think
> it
> is rude and annoying when they say, "I know I'm not supposed to pet your
> dog
> but I just can't resist." I have told them I was pretty sure they can, but
> I
> appreciate the suggestions here. There is an exception I make. I do
> volunteer chaplain work at a hospital, and I let the patients pet him, but
> I
> keep him at a sit and quiet position.
>
> Cindy
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Michael Hingson
> via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 9:45 AM
> To: 'Marion Gwizdala'; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
> Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] They know the dog is working?
>
> All,
>
> I am with Marion here.  If people insist on petting Africa I will get more
> terse and pushy back.  I also will move Africa away from them.  I too point
> out that petting Africa is rude especially after I requested that they do
> not pet her.  I have gone so far as to say that this is not a negotiation
> but a demand.
>
> You are the one who is in control of your dog.  By the way, when I travel
> to
> speak I always include remarks during my talks about how to behave around
> Africa and all other guide dogs.  The vast majority of the time I find that
> after speeches the audiences come up and behave appropriately.  I do also
> take Africa out of harness during book signings and let her and audience
> members visit.  Africa has to relax too.  When the harness goes back on
> people respect that she is back at work.
>
>
> Best,
>
>
> Michael Hingson
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marion Gwizdala
> via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 07:28 AM
> To: 'Abigail Bolling'; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
> Guide Dog Users'
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] They know the dog is working?
>
> Abigail,
>
> 	I had a similar experience yesterday and I will tell you how I
> handled it. I am the music Director at a church. A woman who has been there
> a very long time was outside chatting with newcomers. The newcomers asked
> about my dog and if they could pet it. I told them my dog didn't get petted
> while he was on duty. The woman said, "You're not supposed to pet him, but
> the truth is I sneak a pat from time-to-time." I told the woman that she
> knew better and this was not good etiquette, whether I knew it or not. She
> replied that she knew that but did it anyway. I told her that petting my
> dog
> and taking advantage of the fact that I couldn't see her doing so was very
> rude and the newcomers agreed. She said Sarge was irresistible, again
> admitting she knew it was not acceptable but did it anyway. I asked her how
> it would feel if I just walked up to her and started touching her
> inappropriately and she said she would be offended. "so, don't pet my dog
> because this is offensive, too!" was my reply.
>
> 	If someone pets your dog, especially when they know it is improper,
> do not feel hesitant to ask them to stop. If they disregard your request,
> tell them that petting your dog is as rude as it would be if they touched
> you without your permission. JMHO.
>
> Marion Gwizdala
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Abigail Bolling
> via nagdu
> Sent: Monday, December 29, 2014 10:06 AM
> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List
> Subject: [nagdu] They know the dog is working?
>
> Hi all,
> I'd like to start this out with saying I hope you all had a great holiday.
> And hope the new year is good for you and your furry friends.
> Now I have a serious question for you all?
> My mothers employees are almost like family. Mother has been at her place
> of
> employment for over 30 years, and her staff all love dogs.
>
> This one woman walked up to Jada this morning and started trying to get
> jada
> to play with her.  Jada was in harness, and since we were in public, I
> corrected her for reacting. The woman then continued talking to jada saying
> "sorry puppy. I didn't mean to get you in trouble, I know I shouldn't be
> talking to you because you're working."
>
> What do/would you guys do in this situation? Since this happens every time
> I
> go to work with my mother.
>
>
> Abigail Bolling
> "Keep a smile on your face and a song in your heart, and just let the music
> play." (Julie Anderson Diamond)
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