[nagdu] Retired Guides; Do the same access laws apply?

Dan Weiner dcwein at dcwein.cnc.net
Wed Dec 31 04:07:50 UTC 2014


Let's see, and who is waving this magic wand to say he's not a service dog,
just because we utter the mystical word retired.
He still has his training so as far as I'm concerned it's a service dog and
frankly even if it isn't (again through this unexplained magic( if I needed
him with me I would do whatever it takes to keep him.

JMO

Dan

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer via
nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:06 PM
To: Chaim B. Segal; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Retired Guides; Do the same access laws apply?

Because he is no longer a service dog, it is my understanding that he is now
a pet. Therefore, he would be subject to the same rules that apply to any
other pet.

Shannon and the Acelet
On Dec 30, 2014, at 4:19 PM, "Chaim B. Segal via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:

> Hi All on both lists:
> 
> Chaim Segal here. It looks as though I will likely need to move out of my
current house in the nearly immediate future, as my mother needs to enter
senior care. At present time, my current earnings are not enough to sustain
rent in our current town-house. Therefore, I need to weigh my options when
moving myself and my wife out into an apartment. Our current apartment
manager has been gracious, and has not charged us an extra pet deposit for
Keeper (my third guide) once he retired. We only pay a deposit for our cat
which my wife and I purchased as a kitten around six years ago. This being
said, I have been hearing conflicting information throughout the years.
> 
> At some point back in the 90s, I thought I once heard that a retired guide
dog has the same access rules regarding rent and access that a currently
working guide has. I was surprised to hear that. I was not considering the
fact that I would need to know for sure some day.
> 
>   Earlier this year, my mother and I attempted to take both Keeper and
Yahtzee (current guide) to the vet on paratransit. The driver insisted that
Keeper must be in a carrier while riding the bus. Officials at Greater
Dayton RTA backed her up. At the time, I did not pursue the matter, because
the driver in question is uncomfortable with dogs to begin with. 
> 
> So, I now need to know one way or the other, in order to determine how
many pet deposits will need to be paid. The best I could hope for is to find
a place where pets are welcome without a silly deposit or fee. But, is
Keeper considered a pet, or does he still have higher status despite his
retirement?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Chaim
> 
> Chaim B. Segal
> Customer Service Representative
> Sinclair Community College
> E-mail: chaimsegal at sbcglobal.net
> 
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