[nagdu] Retired Guides; Do the same access laws apply?

Buddy Brannan buddy at brannan.name
Wed Dec 31 14:36:03 UTC 2014


Usually, it’s the dog who “waves the magic wand”, either by being unable or unwilling to work. 

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> On Dec 30, 2014, at 11:07 PM, Dan Weiner via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Let's see, and who is waving this magic wand to say he's not a service dog,
> just because we utter the mystical word retired.
> He still has his training so as far as I'm concerned it's a service dog and
> frankly even if it isn't (again through this unexplained magic( if I needed
> him with me I would do whatever it takes to keep him.
> 
> JMO
> 
> Dan
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Shannon Dyer via
> nagdu
> Sent: Tuesday, December 30, 2014 8:06 PM
> To: Chaim B. Segal; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
> Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Retired Guides; Do the same access laws apply?
> 
> Because he is no longer a service dog, it is my understanding that he is now
> a pet. Therefore, he would be subject to the same rules that apply to any
> other pet.
> 
> Shannon and the Acelet
> On Dec 30, 2014, at 4:19 PM, "Chaim B. Segal via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi All on both lists:
>> 
>> Chaim Segal here. It looks as though I will likely need to move out of my
> current house in the nearly immediate future, as my mother needs to enter
> senior care. At present time, my current earnings are not enough to sustain
> rent in our current town-house. Therefore, I need to weigh my options when
> moving myself and my wife out into an apartment. Our current apartment
> manager has been gracious, and has not charged us an extra pet deposit for
> Keeper (my third guide) once he retired. We only pay a deposit for our cat
> which my wife and I purchased as a kitten around six years ago. This being
> said, I have been hearing conflicting information throughout the years.
>> 
>> At some point back in the 90s, I thought I once heard that a retired guide
> dog has the same access rules regarding rent and access that a currently
> working guide has. I was surprised to hear that. I was not considering the
> fact that I would need to know for sure some day.
>> 
>>  Earlier this year, my mother and I attempted to take both Keeper and
> Yahtzee (current guide) to the vet on paratransit. The driver insisted that
> Keeper must be in a carrier while riding the bus. Officials at Greater
> Dayton RTA backed her up. At the time, I did not pursue the matter, because
> the driver in question is uncomfortable with dogs to begin with. 
>> 
>> So, I now need to know one way or the other, in order to determine how
> many pet deposits will need to be paid. The best I could hope for is to find
> a place where pets are welcome without a silly deposit or fee. But, is
> Keeper considered a pet, or does he still have higher status despite his
> retirement?
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Chaim
>> 
>> Chaim B. Segal
>> Customer Service Representative
>> Sinclair Community College
>> E-mail: chaimsegal at sbcglobal.net
>> 
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