[nagdu] Leash guiding WAS: re3 ,Age of Qualifying Guide Dogs

[Darla Rogers]

Dear Jenine,

	Thank you for explaining that so well; can you give an average or
approximation on how long it takes a student to learn it?
Darla & Happy Huck


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From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Jenine Stanley
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 10:27 AM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] Leash guiding WAS: re3 ,Age of Qualifying Guide Dogs

To my knowledge, Guide Dog Foundation is the only school to formally teach
leash guiding. We do so with many caveats. 

1. Leash guiding should only be used in familiar, preferable indoor areas or
in extreme emergencies such as a harness breaking. 

2. Leash guiding should never be used to cross streets on a regular basis
because when doing it correctly and efficiently, you are much closer to the
dog's shoulders, giving it less stopping time/distance. 

3. There are right and wrong ways to safely use leash guiding and if your
dog wasn't trained to do it, the process can cause more problems than it
helps. Yes, many of you do use the leash to work your dogs and no one here
is dead yet but is it the safest, most efficient way to work the dog? 

4. Leash guiding should never be used or at least should be used in
conjunction with a harness being worn, when entering businesses, moving
about a hotel or other public place. We say this because the public has a
difficult enough time trying to tell what a real service animal is without
the confusion of a dog simply on leash working. Yes, it's perfectly legal
and all that but sometimes just because a thing is so doesn't make it right
or easy. :) 

For me coming to GDf from Pilot Dogs, learning to work my dog using only the
leash was the hardest part of class beyond the different harness feel. When
done the way we teach it, you can leash guide through Manhattan crowds, not
recommended but doable, without hitting anyone.
Jenine Stanley
jeninems at wowway.com

http://www.twitter.com/jeninems

On Feb 21, 2014, at 11:15 AM, Alyssa <alyssahenson95 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Leash guiding means the dog is working as a guide even out of harness.
I've secretly allowed my girl to do this as it has helped me in many
situations. I generally only do this indoors and not around stairs as LDB
didn't train the dogs for this skill.
> Alyssa
> 
> Sent From My iPhone 
> 
>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> I have never heard of the term "leash guiding".  Can someone tell me what
this is, or what it entails?
>> 
>> Daryl and the sleeping Jenny
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Alyssa <alyssahenson95 at gmail.com>
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
<nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Fri, 21 Feb 2014 08:38:11 -0700 (MST)
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] re3 ,Age of Qualifying Guide Dogs
>> 
>> I personally like the idea of leash guiding. In fact, when I was at LDB,
Sophie girl did this often to keep me from hitting walls. LDB disapproved
this method but I'm glad to see that doesn't apply to all the schools.
>> Alyssa
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Feb 21, 2014, at 8:09 AM, lizzy <lizzym0827 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Shannon,
>>> It's funny that you say that about the maturity level of your dogs
because I've heard a similar comment from another GDF handler.  She said
that in general, GDF's dogs are a bit better when it comes to manners and
behavior.  She seems to believe that it has to do with GDF teaching their
dogs more commands than other schools, and also leash guiding.  Has anyone
else heard or seen this?
>>> Just curious,
>>> Lizzy
>>> 
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