[nagdu] Growing Up Fisher

Darla Rogers djrogers0628 at gmail.com
Mon Feb 24 23:21:12 UTC 2014 

Hi Buddy,

	Yeah; there was the veal chops--my husband did cook a steak and
serve it to my guide dog when we knew we were going to have to put her
down--but I don't let Huck, or any of my dogs, have people food.
	It seemed they tried to cram too much into a half hour; maybe
thing/situations will be better developed in future episodes.
	What blind people may not consider funny, sighted people might--and
that may not be a bad thing--I know people who use humor to make sighted
people feel more at ease; I can't do it, so I don't try.
Darla & Happy Huck



-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 4:39 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher

Actually, I wonder if it was Blind Justice? There was another one called
Long Street, which I never saw. Anyway, in Blind Justice, Hank (the guide
dog) was only a guide dog, never an attack dog. Yes, the cop did carry a
gun. Still, that was another show whose blind character could have been done
a lot worse, and in many ways did pretty well. Our stance on whether blind
people should carry isn't terribly relevant, but that point did come up in
the show. I wish that that one had actually been renewed, as it really did
explore some interesting issues, but them's the breaks.As for Growing Up
Fisher, I really hope it gets better, as far as being funnier. I really did
want to like it, and i still do. I would say the blind character could have
been lots worse. While there were things about the guide dog aspects that
bothered me (veal chops?) there was also quite a bit that ws done right, the
access challenge being the biggest standout. But even with its better
points, to me anyway, it just wasn't funny. Which is, after all, supposed to
be the point.
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:23 PM, Mike <blindndangerous at gmail.com> wrote:

> The show you're thinking of was called Blind Justice.  It was a filler for
NYPD Blue.
> Mike.
> On 2/24/2014 4:52 PM, Larry D. Keeler wrote:
>> Can't remember the name of it but there was a TV show about a blind
detective. I watched a couple of them and decided it was to unrealistic.
Letting him carry a gun and having his guide dog also be an attack dog! Not
good or realistic!
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: <barbandzoe at comcast.net>
>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 4:20 PM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher
>> 
>> 
>>> Remember this is a TV show, remember how in early TV black people only
got to be maids and servants. the black people didn't like it. so I think
this is a good step forward. there was a lawyer show with a death lawyer in
it, and I bet the death community didn't think they did all the right
things, but this is a chance for the blind groups to get out and show people
what it is to be blind and what blind people can do. I hope this goes on for
a while, and not get to silly.
>>> Barb
>>> 
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> 
>>> From: "Sherrill O'Brien" <sherrill.obrien at verizon.net>
>>> To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog 
>>> Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 2:53:32 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher
>>> 
>>> Hi all,
>>> 
>>> Remember that this show is based on a real life scenario. The producer
of the show, DJ Nash, is the actual son of the blind guy, and the dad got
his dog from GDF back around 1980. I read NFB's comments about the show.
They aren't happy about the Dad hiding his blindness with his son's help. I
understand NFB's stance on this, because they are concerned this deception
reinforces the public's fears about blindness. but the fact is, that is how
this guy really lived his life, deceiving others and himself. He finally
came to his senses and decided he couldn't live a lie anymore. And sadly, we
all know people who have gone through this kind of denial. Often it takes a
blind mentor to give them the courage to move forward and acquire the skills
and confidence to live an honest and meaningful life. I'm sure many of us on
this list have encouraged others, perhaps more than we'll ever know, who
were new to blindness or struggling to find their way. In the YouTube
interview with Mr. Nash, he even mentions that it indeed was a relationship
with successful blind people which finally helped his father realize he
needed to stop pretending and get his life back.
>>> 
>>> I'm not a fan of current TV sitcoms...good old MASH or All in the 
>>> Family are more my style I confess. But I want to give the show a chance
and try not to get too crazy about every little thing that makes me cringe.
If it ends up being a positive portrayal of a rather eccentric and outspoken
blind guy and his guide dog, even if the show doesn't get it right all the
time, and we know it won't, then it will have done a much better job than
most. Believe me, I'll have to keep telling myself what I just wrote each
time I watch the show (lol.) And I promise I'll try to stay off my soapbox
after each episode.
>>> Sherrill
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: nagdu 
>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org]On Behalf Of Darla Rogers
>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 2:29 PM
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Good points, Brandi; it seemed it cut off very quickly, so I'm going to
have to re-view it to make sure I didn't miss anything.
>>> Remember, pilots are just pilots; I am sure the creators are kicking
themselves about things they would have3 done differently.
>>> At least, we aren't portrayed as helpless; t5he wife, so far as I can
figure, didn't leave because husband went blind, and comedy is often a good
way to educate people. Remember all those cartoons in your textbooks?
>>> I'm glad Howard has the money to pay for a guide dog; many, many of us
do not, and depending on how it is obtained and who trains, it could be a
very expensive proposition.
>>> Darla & happy Huck
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message----- From: nagdu 
>>> [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Brandy Pinder
>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:21 AM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Cc: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher
>>> 
>>> I agree with mike. I did find it funny. I also saw some educational
stuff in there. For instance explaining the dog doesn't quote see for you
but guides you. Now they should of mentioned seeing eye is a name brand.
Also, locking the dog in the pantry was meant to be funny and any parents
can agree they do things like this to help there kids through something,
would I do it that way maybe not but again it's a comedy. Does every one
think that all black families are like the house of pain? I would of been
mad if when he cut down the tree it hit the house, or when parking he hit a
car. I had a boyfriend who let me drive twice when no one was on the road. I
have seen blind parents who used to drive give their kids driving pointers.
And lastly it was a pilot episode. If you look at the summary of the next
episode it goes into detail. If this was a movie or reality show I would be
more nit picky but it is a comedy. I think we should be happy they are
trying to portray people who are blind. Is it perfect? Maybe not but if this
keeps going maybe they will make more like it and actually use blind actors
etc. The director consulted extensively with people who are blind in los
Angeles as well as got extensive information and equipment from gdf not to
mention he lived it. It's not like he pulled this out of thin air. If
agencies go and protest it it and any other shows like it would disappear.
Bottom line it is a comedy. If Tim the tool man Taylor was a normal home
improvement guy would it be funny?
>>> 
>>> brandy pinder
>>> Alumni Council - second vice Chairman Guide Dog Foundation for the 
>>> Blind, IncR and America's VetDogsR, The Veteran's K-9 Corps IncR 
>>> Providing "Second uSight"R since 1946
>>> 
>>> 371 E. Jericho Turnpike smith town ny 11766
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>>> Email: brandydp at verizon.net
>>> Cell: 304-685-4499
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:47 AM, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> gentlemen, there was no reason to get nasty. Although you may not
likethe show. You need to keep your opinion subjective. Be nice!
>>>> thank you, from your list moderator!y
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha drenth
>>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Mike <blindndangerous at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's called a comedy. Get that through your head. Heh. I didn't get a
chance to watch it, but I did read the article that the NFB published about
it, and while I am not a fan of them all the time they had a lot of good
points to say on the show. SO I think I'll take them over you.
>>>>> Mike.
>>>>>> On 2/24/2014 7:52 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote:
>>>>>> Did anyone else watch this awful piece of garbage last night?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It had exactly one redeeming quality, and that was that it ended
eventually. For once, I agree with the critics. Blind guy or no, this thing
for one wasn't funny. For another, oh, where to begin?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Where did the guy's family think he went for a month? Or did he just
pick up a guide dog named Elvis at the corner store?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Veal cutlet? Really?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Locking your dog in the pantry and pretending he was lost? For real?
C'mon.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK, it was TV, but it was really bad TV.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh, and mom.midlife crisis much?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'll give it another go, but i'm not very optimistic.
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