[nagdu] Growing Up Fisher

barbandzoe at comcast.net barbandzoe at comcast.net
Tue Feb 25 01:01:39 UTC 2014 

The veal shops were given the dog by the hotel because the man said he could sew Remember they got the hot nudge sundaes,  How is meat people only food.  I would rather give my dogs meat then most of the dog treats out there.  So much of that stuff is all corn and wheat.  Dogs eat meat, veggies and fruits in the wild. and by wild I mean dogs like foxes, coyotes, and to some extent wolves.   
Many times when dogs get sick many times people who deal in animal nutrition will tell you to cook for your dog and give them meat, brown rice and veggies.  If you have a fat dog we have been told to give dogs veggies for treats. 
  
I still liked the show and will watch it again. 
Barb  

----- Original Message -----

From: "Raven Tolliver" <ravend729 at gmail.com> 
To: "NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org> 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 6:01:38 PM 
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher 

Hi, 
As someone who is very against manufactured dog food, there is nothing 
wrong with feeding dogs raw meat that has been treated and handled a 
certain way. 
In fact, guide dog schools in the earlier days used to feed the dogs 
raw meat, or maybe it was cooked. It doesn't matter, manufactured dog 
food is a very new concept. And guess what pet dogs and working dogs 
ate before that cancer-laden stuff was concocted. Guess what wild 
canines eat. 

On 2/24/14, Marsha Drenth <marsha.drenth at gmail.com> wrote: 
> Doug, 
> LOL Oh ow that is a grand idea for those who are not happy with this list. 
> Atleast you broke the sort of funky feeling the list had. 
> Thanks for the smile. 
> *cough* back to our normally regularly schedule guide dog talk..LOL 
> 
> Marsha drenth 
> Sent with my IPhone 
> 
>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 5:51 PM, Doug Parisian <eggmann at mymts.net> wrote: 
>> 
>> Obviously adding to the tedium but, something worth serious consideration, 
>> if one cannot abide by list rules in terms of eticate and topic rules, 
>> simple solution leave!  You could go one step further and set up your own 
>> list with your own rules--YIKES! 
>> 
>>> On 24/02/2014 3:55 PM, Marsha Drenth wrote: 
>>> Howard, 
>>> You asked what rules had been broken. The rule of respect. By Mike's 
>>> tone, he was not being respectful of Buddy. Again this had nothing to do 
>>> with the actual writing, but the way he sounded. Nor did this have any 
>>> thing to do with Mike's opinion or Buddy's opinion. Again it was the 
>>> tone. I am getting blue from saying this so much. Nor should I need to 
>>> explain repect to you, to whom I assume are a grown man. As someone said 
>>> already, there are rules on this list. I don't care if you don't like the 
>>> show or not, take it apart bit by bit, express your opinion all you 
>>> want...but do it in a respectful manner. Also again, this has nothing to 
>>> do with that I did or not recieve my guide from any particular school. I 
>>> didn't know about the show until someone posted about it today. Nor do I 
>>> watch TV. I am the moderator of this list, and do have the authority to 
>>> tell persons who have a bad tone to be nice. And again, if you have 
>>> issues with that, please do take it up with Marion, NAGDU president. 
>>> Everyone since has discussed this show in a respectful manner, but you 
>>> seem to go and go on and on about this. Your more than welcome to email 
>>> me offlist, I can not call you. 
>>> 
>>> I am suggesting that this be the last said about this. No I don't mean 
>>> the topic of the show, but your insistants that I am taking away your 
>>> right to an opinion. 
>>> 
>>> Thank you, 
>>> 
>>> Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator 
>>> Sent with my IPhone 
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 4:21 PM, "Howard J. Levine" <WB2HWW at earthlink.net> 
>>>> wrote: 
>>>> 
>>>> Yes if you like to call me that would be great my phone number is 718 
>>>> 591 3678. 
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha Drenth 
>>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 4:15 PM 
>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher 
>>>> 
>>>> Howard, 
>>>> As the list moderator, I have the responsibility to this and to each and 
>>>> every member. I did not tell you that you could not express your 
>>>> opinion. Nor did I take away your right as a blind person to express 
>>>> your thoughts. What I did ask for, is for the members of this list to be 
>>>> nice to each other. And yes Howard, it was rude. 
>>>> If you would like to continue to argue about this, we can surely do that 
>>>> offlist. 
>>>> I was not out of line, but I do believe that you are. 
>>>> Take a deep breathe, step away from the computer and think about what 
>>>> you write before you send the message. 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you, 
>>>> 
>>>> Marsha drenth, NAGDU List Moderator 
>>>> Sent with my IPhone 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 11:13 AM, "Howard J. Levine" <WB2HWW at earthlink.net> 
>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> 
>>>>>   Come on Marsha no one was nasty, did GDF call you. We have a right to 
>>>>> our opinion's and please don't hold blind people to higher stand then 
>>>>> sighted people. It is tv show and we can have opinion just like the 
>>>>> rest of the country. I understand that this show is being back byGDF 
>>>>> and it is all about money. WE as blind people have same rights rest of 
>>>>> the country and don't need to kiss as just so we can get a guide dog. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -----Original Message----- 
>>>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Marsha 
>>>>> Drenth 
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 9:47 AM 
>>>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
>>>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Growing Up Fisher 
>>>>> 
>>>>> gentlemen, there was no reason to get nasty. Although you may not 
>>>>> likethe show. You need to keep your opinion subjective. Be nice! 
>>>>> thank you, from your list moderator!y 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Marsha drenth 
>>>>> Sent with my IPhone 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Feb 24, 2014, at 9:41 AM, Mike <blindndangerous at gmail.com> wrote: 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It's called a comedy. Get that through your head. Heh.  I didn't get a 
>>>>>> chance to watch it, but I did read the article that the NFB published 
>>>>>> about it, and while I am not a fan of them all the time they had a lot 
>>>>>> of good points to say on the show.  SO I think I'll take them over 
>>>>>> you. 
>>>>>> Mike. 
>>>>>>> On 2/24/2014 7:52 AM, Buddy Brannan wrote: 
>>>>>>> Did anyone else watch this awful piece of garbage last night? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It had exactly one redeeming quality, and that was that it ended 
>>>>>>> eventually. For once, I agree with the critics. Blind guy or no, this 
>>>>>>> thing for one wasn't funny. For another, oh, where to begin? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Where did the guy's family think he went for a month? Or did he just 
>>>>>>> pick up a guide dog named Elvis at the corner store? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Veal cutlet? Really? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Locking your dog in the pantry and pretending he was lost? For real? 
>>>>>>> C'mon. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> OK, it was TV, but it was really bad TV. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Oh, and mom...midlife crisis much? 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'll give it another go, but i'm not very optimistic. 
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