[nagdu] Haltis and Scavenging WAS Retiring a dog early

Thu Feb 27 22:57:08 UTC 2014

An instructor better never ever attach or otherwise inter4fere with working
my dog without discussing it with me first and an explanation as to why this
is necessary.
Darla & handsome Huck

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sheila
Sent: Thursday, February 27, 2014 11:07 AM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Haltis and Scavenging WAS Retiring a dog early

It never occurred to me that Tres would go that crazy. My first dog tried to
refuse to walk. We were in training and I didn't know the trainer had put a
haltee or gentle leader on his I don't know which one it was. I got upset
because I didn't know what was wrong with my dog. 
The trainer told me that if he told people he was using the device people
would refuse to work the dog on the  particular day. If I had known what was
happening with my dog my reaction would have been completely different. This
was with my first dog drake not Tres.
On 2/27/2014 9:34 AM, Daryl Marie wrote:
> Oh wow!
>
> Jenny doesn't like the Halti that much, but she won't complain about it
unless we get home and I haven't taken it off yet. LOL  She won't fight me,
but occasionally will do the face-against-leg thing.
>
> Daryl
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: sheila <sleigland at bresnan.net>
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 09:30:20 -0700 (MST)
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Haltis and Scavenging WAS Retiring a dog early
>
> Tres literally hates gentle leaders he tried to jump over the back of 
> a chair and also my head as well as my son's head to get away. We 
> finally got it on but he managed to get his nose out of it. He won't 
> even look at one On 2/26/2014 7:03 PM, Nicole Torcolini wrote:
>> I wish that GDB did this. They issue a gentle leader, or at least 
>> they did in 2007. We were required to use it once. I think that I did 
>> something that made Lexia really not like it; but I honestly  don't 
>> know what I did. I think that she might have liked a halty better. I 
>> don't like the way that the gentle leader pulls tight around the dog's
nose and does not loosen.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven 
>> Tolliver
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:56 PM
>> To: NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Haltis and Scavenging WAS Retiring a dog early
>>
>> Hi Daryl,
>> I'm glad the Halti is working for you! Many people are very anti head 
>> collar. It's good to see you tried it and are having success.
>> Just remember that to work on scavenging and sniffing, it's important 
>> to practice at home with things like "leave it" and teaching your dog 
>> how to react to, or ignore, food on the floor or ground without the 
>> Halti on. The leg work is certainly worth it. I have taught extremely 
>> nosy beagles, black labs, and pitbulls to ignore food via self 
>> restraint or on cue. It took more time than it did with other dogs, but
they get the hang of it.
>> Guiding Eyes  actually issues the Halti among other collars with each
dog.
>> Or, at least they did when I attended. Everyone doesn't need one all 
>> the time, but I have found myself in situations where the Halti was
useful.
>>
>> On 2/26/14, Daryl Marie <crazymusician at shaw.ca> wrote:
>>> Darla,
>>> I have a Halti for jenny. Without knowing it, I bought the Halti (or 
>>> something very VERY similar as per Raven's description).  It has 
>>> made working with Jenny SO much easier!  her scavenging has 
>>> exponentially decreased (maybe once every trip or two, compared to 
>>> ALL THE TIME), and I have full confidence that with a little more 
>>> hard work it will almost disappear in time.
>>>
>>> Daryl and the sleepy Jenny
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Darla Rogers <djrogers0628 at gmail.com>
>>> To: 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users'
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 12:01:27 -0700 (MST)
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Retiring a dog early
>>>
>>> I concur with Darrel; I'd be curious to know, though I am going to 
>>> do as Raven suggests and get a haltie.
>>> Darla & Happy Huck
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Daryl 
>>> Marie
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:33 PM
>>> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Retiring a dog early
>>>
>>> Jewel,
>>> While I am new to guide dogs, I don't have any advice regarding how 
>>> to let go and ways to love a new dog.
>>>
>>> May  I ask what Faye was doing re scavenging/sniffing that prompted 
>>> the trainer and you to come to this decision?  I am curious, as I 
>>> have a scavenger...
>>>
>>> Daryl and the sleepy Jenny doggie donut
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Jewel <herekittykat2 at gmail.com>
>>> To: the National Association of Guide Dog Users NAGDU Mailing List 
>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>> Sent: Wed, 26 Feb 2014 11:11:24 -0700 (MST)
>>> Subject: [nagdu] Retiring a dog early
>>>
>>> Retiring a dog early
>>> An instructor from my school came this weekend and assessed Faye's 
>>> behavior issues, specifically scavenging and sniffing. We decided 
>>> together it would be best to return Faye to the school and start the 
>>> intake for a new dog. I put so much love and time into this 
>>> relationship over the past eight months I have had her, I am having 
>>> trouble dealing with this. Is there any advice on how to enjoy the 
>>> last of the time I have with her and how to let go when I must? I am 
>>> also afraid of not being able to put as much love into my next guide 
>>> dog relationship. Did you find it easy to fall in love with a 
>>> successor
>> dog?
>>> Jewel
>>>
>>>
>>>
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