[nagdu] Blind New Yorker who survived fall on subway tracks with guide dog gifted new service dog

Darla Rogers djrogers0628 at gmail.com
Fri Jan 31 01:02:27 UTC 2014


Thank you Buddy; when I was a somewhat newer handler, one of my advocate
friends had to straighten me out about that, so I don't tell people this to
be nasty or rude, but if you need to advocate for yourself, you want to do
it right.
	Odd; Great Britain confers the rights on the animal, as their dog
attack problem becomes larger, but then, as you said, you have to get your
dog from an accredited school; you can't be an owner-trainer--which I don't
like---even though it isn't something I would do; I might have when I was a
lot younger, but I'll leave it to my school.
Darla & Huck


-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Buddy Brannan
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2014 12:16 PM
To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind New Yorker who survived fall on subway tracks
with guide dog gifted new service dog

What Darla says cannot be overstated or stated too often. It's a small
distinction, but it's a really important one that we all must keep in mind.
If it was the animal that ha the access right, it wouldn't matter if the
person accompanying it had a disability or not, so long as the animal was
trained to mitigate a disability. See the difference? 

Interestingly, the Disability Discrimination Act in the UK apparently *does*
confer the right o access on the animal, not the handler, at least, this is
my understanding. Of course, their regulations are also a lot strict,
requiring all service dogs to come from some accredited organization such as
the GDBA or other ones for service dogs. 
--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: (814) 860-3194 or 888-75-BUDDY



On Jan 30, 2014, at 11:21 AM, Darla Rogers <djrogers0628 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Actually, animals do not have rights under ADA or Fair housing or the 
> Air Carrier act; the person has the right, or not, to be accompanied 
> by his/her service animal or not, depending on which law.
> Darla & handsome Huck
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of melissa R 
> green
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:00 AM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Blind New Yorker who survived fall on subway 
> tracks withguide dog gifted new service dog
> 
> I know what I am going to say may sound synical or a little harsh.
> this is a good story and people feel good about the outcome.
> I hope that this man gets more support than just financially.
> He will face lots of challenges ahead.
> I also know that many retired service anemals have no  rights in the 
> ADA or the fair housing act.
> so this part of the story will not be told.
> Unlike the feel good and warm and fuzzy one of the amazing and super 
> guide dog that helped this poor blind man.
> I say bletch to the negative steriotypes surrounding this story.
> As I have said, the other parts of the story will not be told on a 
> national level, and may be not on a local level.
> I wonder how many other stories are out there that are like this one 
> in some fashion that we never heard anything about them.
> I love the misspelling  of graduated.
> Just my opinion.
> 
> best wishes,
> Sincerely,
> Melissa R Green
> "Faith is taking the first step even when you don't see the whole 
> staircase." -- Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ginger Kutsch" <GingerKutsch at yahoo.com>
> To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users" 
> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 6:54 AM
> Subject: [nagdu] Blind New Yorker who survived fall on subway tracks 
> withguide dog gifted new service dog
> 
> 
> Blind New Yorker who survived fall on subway tracks with guide dog 
> gifted new service dog
> 
> NY Daily News
> 
> http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/blind-new-yorker-survived-fall-sub
> way-tr
> acks-guide-dog-gifted-new-service-dog-article-1.1593292
> 
> 
> 
> If a man's only as good as his friends, Cecil Williams sure knows how 
> to pick them.
> 
> 
> 
> Weeks after the blind New Yorker and his trusty guide dog narrowly 
> escaped death after falling before an oncoming subway train, the 
> 60-year-old man has been gifted a new service dog after his heroic 
> canine, Orlando, retired as his pet.
> 
> 
> 
> "I feel that I was blessed with Orlando, right? And now I'm being 
> blessed again," Williams told NBC's the Today Show while seated beside 
> his black Lab and newly acquired yellow Lab, Godiva.
> 
> 
> 
> Anonymous donors reacting to the William's heart-warming story of his 
> dog jumping to his side chipped in to allow Williams to keep Orlando, 
> who's pictured with him in the hospital here.
> 
> 
> 
> The now famous pair first made news in December after Williams fainted 
> and fell off a 125th St. subway platform, and awoke to find his 
> 11-year-old service dog protectively by his side.
> 
> 
> 
> Both Williams and Orlando - who witnesses said protectively jumped 
> down on the tracks moments after his owner fell - only just survived 
> after they dipped their heads down at the last minute as the train roared
overhead.
> 
> 
> 
> "Orlando was like my angel, and he's always been that since I got him,"
> Williams told NBC. "We work together. I protect him and he protects me."
> 
> 
> 
> Then word came that Williams could neither afford to keep Orlando - 
> who was set to soon retire - nor afford a new guide dog.
> 
> 
> 
> Anonymous donors reacting to the news soon after chipped in to help 
> Williams afford Orlando. In a second remarkable act of kindness, he 
> was gifted Godiva.
> 
> 
> 
> In his interview with NBC, Williams was moved to tears as he described 
> his good fortune brought on by the generosity of strangers.
> 
> 
> 
> "The spirit of good will, it exists," he said. "In the world you see a 
> lot of negative things, but I try to focus on the positive."
> 
> 
> 
> Godiva was one of nine January gradates with the Guiding Eyes for the 
> Blind, a nonprofit based in New York. The dogs go on to serve the 
> blind and visually impaired.
> 
> 
> 
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