[nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

Larry D Keeler lkeeler at comcast.net
Fri Jul 4 15:19:23 UTC 2014


Well Tracy, you do have that right. But, I still use my cane a lot. 
Sometimes I use it in the snow because snow causes Holly to sniff and want 
to play! Also, Holly wants to stop for every single snow drift! It can take 
a really long time to walk a couple of blocks before the snow is shoveled 
off. A clear path with no drifts is great for her! I can't get her to see 
that some drifts we can just go threw!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the 
National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog


>I remember the cane worked fine for me, but I still wanted to try a dog.  I 
>did, and I never looked back.  Getting where I wanted to go became actually 
>fun, so I started walking for the pleasure of it. Getting around in snow 
>with a dog was way easier, too.  One of the best decisions I ever made.
> Tracy
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Star Gazer via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Kathy Davis'" <kdavisnfbf at cfl.rr.com>; "'NAGDU Mailing List,the 
> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>
>
>> Oh believe me, everybody hasa cell phone these days. Pay
>> phones are gone so if you need/want help, you need your own 
>> communications
>> device. Not to mention there is just so much you can do with acell phone
>> now.
>> Liz, why are you thinking of getting a dog. If the cane works for you, 
>> why
>> change?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Davis 
>> via
>> nagdu
>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:54 AM
>> To: 'Larry D Keeler'; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of 
>> Guide
>> Dog Users'; 'Elizabeth Campbell'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>>
>> I keep a telescoping cane in my purse or tote bag at all times and
>> especially when I am headed to a large hotel like the NFB National
>> Convention. I use my cane with my dog just on leash so I can figure out 
>> how
>> to get around because my dog wouldn't have a clue if I didn't know how to
>> direct him. Yes, telescoping canes can work well in conjunction with my 
>> dog
>> at times. Then there are those times when I just use my cane as was the 
>> case
>> yesterday when I went to the movies without Wade. I also take my iPhone 
>> with
>> me when Wade and I are out doing things just in case there is an 
>> emergency
>> or if we get lost. This seldom happens but I do believe that even sighted
>> people usually have their cell phones with them most if not all of the 
>> time
>> when they are out and about.
>>
>> Good luck with your decision. Everyone on this list is so very helpful! 
>> Hope
>> to meet some of you in Orlando this week.
>>
>> Blessings always,
>>
>> Kathy Davis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D Keeler
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:17 AM
>> To: Elizabeth Campbell; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>> Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>>
>> Still carry a cane in my ever versitile back pack. I have been known to 
>> use
>> it to shoreline for sidewalks on my right. I also have a straight cane 
>> who
>> lives in my closet and comes out when its really hot, cold or wet. 
>> Everyone
>> does things a little differently but, I use my foot to find what's in 
>> front
>> of me when Holly jstops. I could see using a small cane to do this as 
>> well.
>> I would probably keep sush a beast on my belt for that.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Elizabeth Campbell via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'Elisabeth Clark'" <Darthsylva94 at gmail.com>; "'NAGDU Mailing 
>> List,the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>>
>>
>>> Hi Liz,
>>>
>>> It has been my experience that as I've worked with my dogs, they learn
>>> to give me cues about uneven ground. Both of my guides have learned to
>>> slow down when there is uneven footing ahead. IN my opinion, there is
>>> nothing wrong with having a folding or telescoping cane with you,
>>> especially when you first get a dog and are showing the dog your
>> surroundings.
>>> Remember that when you come home with your dog, you will be far more
>>> familiar with the area.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps and best of luck in going forward with plans to get a 
>>> dog.
>>>
>>> Liz and Gabe
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elisabeth
>>> Clark via nagdu
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:34 AM
>>> To: Buddy Brannan; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>>> Guide Dog Users; ntorcolini at wavecable.com; nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I haven't got a dog yet, but have done several walks with a few dogs
>>> through three different schools and am looking at getting a dog.
>>>
>>> One thing I don't understand is the fact that I feel most confident
>>> with my cane vs the confidence I have while walking with a guidedog.
>>> I feel that my cane gives me more feedback on my surroundings and I
>>> can sense the unevenness of the ground better than what I can with a
>>> guidedog.  I also know they try to pull you around obsticals, but I'm
>>> not good with following a dog.
>>> With my cane, I can use the tapping technique and echo location to get
>>> around obsticals and find that much easier.  Did any of you experience
>>> the same problem?
>>>
>>> Cheers, Liz.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Braillenote Apex.
>>>
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