[nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

Fri Jul 4 15:24:47 UTC 2014

Thankfully, Jenny views snow as a means to an end. It exists, but she won't sniff in it or play in it unless she's offleash. I once gave the command to go down a side street we usually take in the summer, which that day was FULL of snow.  We traipsed through it, but the whole time she kept looking over at me, as if to say, "Ooooookay, I'll go through this, but you know you're silly, right?"

I honestly don't know how I would've survived this past winter with just a cane.

DarYL
----- Original Message -----
From: Larry D Keeler via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: Tracy Carcione <carcione at access.net>, NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Fri, 04 Jul 2014 09:19:23 -0600 (MDT)
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

Well Tracy, you do have that right. But, I still use my cane a lot. 
Sometimes I use it in the snow because snow causes Holly to sniff and want 
to play! Also, Holly wants to stop for every single snow drift! It can take 
a really long time to walk a couple of blocks before the snow is shoveled 
off. A clear path with no drifts is great for her! I can't get her to see 
that some drifts we can just go threw!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tracy Carcione via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Star Gazer" <pickrellrebecca at gmail.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the 
National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Friday, July 04, 2014 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog

>I remember the cane worked fine for me, but I still wanted to try a dog.  I 
>did, and I never looked back.  Getting where I wanted to go became actually 
>fun, so I started walking for the pleasure of it. Getting around in snow 
>with a dog was way easier, too.  One of the best decisions I ever made.
> Tracy
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Star Gazer via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Kathy Davis'" <kdavisnfbf at cfl.rr.com>; "'NAGDU Mailing List,the 
> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2014 2:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>
>
>> Oh believe me, everybody hasa cell phone these days. Pay
>> phones are gone so if you need/want help, you need your own 
>> communications
>> device. Not to mention there is just so much you can do with acell phone
>> now.
>> Liz, why are you thinking of getting a dog. If the cane works for you, 
>> why
>> change?
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Davis 
>> via
>> nagdu
>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 10:54 AM
>> To: 'Larry D Keeler'; 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of 
>> Guide
>> Dog Users'; 'Elizabeth Campbell'
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>>
>> I keep a telescoping cane in my purse or tote bag at all times and
>> especially when I am headed to a large hotel like the NFB National
>> Convention. I use my cane with my dog just on leash so I can figure out 
>> how
>> to get around because my dog wouldn't have a clue if I didn't know how to
>> direct him. Yes, telescoping canes can work well in conjunction with my 
>> dog
>> at times. Then there are those times when I just use my cane as was the 
>> case
>> yesterday when I went to the movies without Wade. I also take my iPhone 
>> with
>> me when Wade and I are out doing things just in case there is an 
>> emergency
>> or if we get lost. This seldom happens but I do believe that even sighted
>> people usually have their cell phones with them most if not all of the 
>> time
>> when they are out and about.
>>
>> Good luck with your decision. Everyone on this list is so very helpful! 
>> Hope
>> to meet some of you in Orlando this week.
>>
>> Blessings always,
>>
>> Kathy Davis
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Larry D Keeler
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:17 AM
>> To: Elizabeth Campbell; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>> Guide Dog Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>>
>> Still carry a cane in my ever versitile back pack. I have been known to 
>> use
>> it to shoreline for sidewalks on my right. I also have a straight cane 
>> who
>> lives in my closet and comes out when its really hot, cold or wet. 
>> Everyone
>> does things a little differently but, I use my foot to find what's in 
>> front
>> of me when Holly jstops. I could see using a small cane to do this as 
>> well.
>> I would probably keep sush a beast on my belt for that.
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Elizabeth Campbell via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> To: "'Elisabeth Clark'" <Darthsylva94 at gmail.com>; "'NAGDU Mailing 
>> List,the
>> National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> Sent: Monday, June 30, 2014 9:08 AM
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>>
>>
>>> Hi Liz,
>>>
>>> It has been my experience that as I've worked with my dogs, they learn
>>> to give me cues about uneven ground. Both of my guides have learned to
>>> slow down when there is uneven footing ahead. IN my opinion, there is
>>> nothing wrong with having a folding or telescoping cane with you,
>>> especially when you first get a dog and are showing the dog your
>> surroundings.
>>> Remember that when you come home with your dog, you will be far more
>>> familiar with the area.
>>>
>>> Hope this helps and best of luck in going forward with plans to get a 
>>> dog.
>>>
>>> Liz and Gabe
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Elisabeth
>>> Clark via nagdu
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2014 10:34 AM
>>> To: Buddy Brannan; NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of
>>> Guide Dog Users; ntorcolini at wavecable.com; nagdu at nfbnet.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Adjustment from working with a king to a dog
>>>
>>> Hi guys,
>>> I haven't got a dog yet, but have done several walks with a few dogs
>>> through three different schools and am looking at getting a dog.
>>>
>>> One thing I don't understand is the fact that I feel most confident
>>> with my cane vs the confidence I have while walking with a guidedog.
>>> I feel that my cane gives me more feedback on my surroundings and I
>>> can sense the unevenness of the ground better than what I can with a
>>> guidedog.  I also know they try to pull you around obsticals, but I'm
>>> not good with following a dog.
>>> With my cane, I can use the tapping technique and echo location to get
>>> around obsticals and find that much easier.  Did any of you experience
>>> the same problem?
>>>
>>> Cheers, Liz.
>>>
>>> Sent from my Braillenote Apex.
>>>
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