[nagdu] I guess I will not be getting a dog

Debbie Cole debbieanne1124 at gmail.com
Tue Jul 15 20:51:01 UTC 2014


Yes it's worth it.  I'm sorry you were denied, Barb.

Most schools have in home training programs.  You don't mention where
you live.  Don't give up.
Debbie & Leone

On 7/15/14, Tami Jarvis via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> Barb,
>
> I'm sorry to hear that. Did they give specific reasons? Did the reasons
> seem reasonable to you? Is it something you can either refute or
> address? How do you feel about appealing and getting a dog from that
> program after the denial? What do you think about appealing and getting
> a dog from that program after the denial?
>
> Those questions I asked myself when I was turned down by a program. I
> decided I thought the reasons were not reasonable -- like that I could
> read signs (I could not!) and so didn't need a guide dog. Since I had
> provided all those records about my vision and since to my knowledge it
> is not the job of a guide to read signs, I did not view this as a
> reasonable reason! There was another one given that I considered equally
> unreasonable, as well as a third that could have been taken more than
> one way. I did call to see about clarification, but the reviewer did not
> call me back. By that time it had occurred to me that while it was
> pretty clear the interviewer and I did not hit it off (though we both
> remained cordial throughout), the review board had signed off on the bit
> about reading signs, so... I began looking into other programs and was
> prepared to follow through on an application I had started before some
> stuff came up, then got a puppy to owner-train. I had been thinking of
> training a guide dog for years and really had a yen to do it anyway,
> though I thought it made more sense to use a guide dog for awhile first
> so I would know what I was training for. It was the insistence that I
> demonstrate a full-strength two-handed leash correction with a firm
> lecture that if they gave me a "strong" dog because they thought that
> was best, then that was best no matter what I thought. I said I did not
> want to go around the world that way, and I meant it. Anyway, it
> occurred to me that I know how to train an animal to voice and subtle
> hand and body signals, because that is how I like my animals to be and
> how I like to be with them. I can be firm when I need to, and can get a
> horse under control when strength and force are needed, but the notion
> that force is a regular part of handling... I may have gotten a wrong
> impression from her about that, although this was just before programs
> started moving to more positive methods and working towards producing
> softer dogs. Anyway, owner-training the first time out suddenly looked
> like a more viable option to get what I wanted, although that is far
> from the only reason I owner-trained.
>
> Aren't there other programs by now that provide in-home training even to
> first-timers? It seems I've heard of a few people getting that from one
> or more programs, but I'm short on sleep and may be hallucinating
> perfect solutions. /smile/
>
> Keep us posted on what you decide to do and what happens.
>
> Tami
>
> On 07/14/2014 09:46 PM, Barb breuer via nagdu wrote:
>> I just got the letter from Fidelco guide dog school and they say I don't
>> qualify, they were my only hope to get a dog because they come to me to
>> train with the dog and not me going to the school for three weeks. I can't
>> get that kind of time off of work and keep my job at the same time.
>> I was hoping to get a dog, this was something I had wanted for 40 years.
>> I just don't understand why I don't qualify. I have no big special needs.
>> they say I can appeal, , but is it worth it.
>> Barb
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