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Star Gazer
pickrellrebecca at gmail.com
Fri Jul 18 20:58:28 UTC 2014
Yes, especially if the person expects me to have my ducks in a row.
Barb, I think you dodged a bullet.
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From: Tracy Carcione [mailto:carcione at access.net]
Sent: Friday, July 18, 2014 9:32 AM
To: Star Gazer; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users
Subject: Re: [nagdu] (no subject)
I concur. The trainer knew she was going to do an interview, but she didn't bother to prepare for it. It's unprofessional.
Some people don't care about that kind of thing, but I do.
Tracy
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From: "Star Gazer via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "'Tracy Carcione'" <carcione at access.net>; "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 6:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] (no subject)
> Tracy makes some excellent points.
> I also wonder Barb, if you filled out the application inappropriately.
> If it says "Can you cross streets independently?" did you respond with
> "Yes, I can do this without a cane?" If you did, I can see why they
> rejected you.
> That being said, there is no excuse for the woman doing the interview
> to be unprepared. I'd not want to do business with anybody who
> couldn't or wouldn't hold up their end of the deal.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Tracy
> Carcione via nagdu
> Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2014 7:46 AM
> To: barbandzoe at comcast.net; NAGDU Mailing List, the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] (no subject)
>
> Hi Barb.
> When I met my husband, he didn't use a cane. I talked him into using
> one when he slammed into a pole and had to get stitches. He uses a
> folding cane, as someone else suggested, and takes it out when he
> wants it, which now is nearly all the time. Because he's using his
> cane, he doesn't slam into poles or fall down steps, which makes us
> both happy. Also, people understand why he's asking what a sign says,
> or where something is, or even looks at them kinda sideways.
> He hasn't had formal training, just me showing him what to do when he
> started out. His technique could be a lot better, but even so he's a
> lot safer with his cane than without.
> Tracy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Barb breuer via nagdu
> To: Becky Frankeberger ; 'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association
> of Guide Dog Users'
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 11:42 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] (no subject)
>
>
> Many ask if I use a cane, I use it but I have not had formal
> training with an O&M instructor. So when a school wants me to have an
> instructor sign that I can travel, I have to hire one.
> I went to regular public school, and I didn't have the training.
> Now I would have to talk a course or something.
> Barb
>
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> ------ Original Message ------
>
> From: Becky Frankeberger
> To: barbandzoe at comcast.net, 'NAGDU Mailing List, the National
> Association of Guide Dog Users'
> Sent: July 16, 2014 at 2:22 PM
> Subject: RE: [nagdu] (no subject)
> Barb, my husband went from travel vision to using a guide dog. He
> absolutely loves the experience. He did later take O and M and used a
> cane, but to stride out was so wonderfully freeing with a guide dog.
> He did not have to look down and worry if he missed a crack or step.
> He looked up and is so happy working a guide dog. Your dog will love
> going with you on your job. Just make sure she sees you when you are
> away from her in the tight areas you go into. High partials love
> working guide dogs, so don’t worry about anything. As long as you are
> legally blind and that is a wide range of abilities, try it out. If
> you don’t like it or the extra work is too much, then you have other
> options. I remember my first dog. I thought oh I have to get up even
> earlier to catch the van to church. So I got up got dressed fed the
> dog and out we went for park time and a quick brush time. Back in to
> finished the fine points of dressing, and breakfast. I was ready a
> half hour before the van came. Boy was I shocked. So this low partial
> has enjoyed the miracle of what these dogs can do to keep us safe.
>
>
>
> The miracle of you don’t have to follow any longer, that you can
> lead if you choose. Right now you don’t have that choice. You said you
> cross streets so I would anyway, say your orientation is fine. Leader
> has a brush up program for a week if you need help with O and M.
>
>
>
> I love myth busting you have to be very low vision and all the
> other crap. The myth you have to use a cane first. No you just need to
> show you can orient yourself and move about getting where you want to go safely.
>
>
>
> The dog is extra work, but the freedom she will give you well you
> won’t even think the things you do for her is work.
>
>
>
> Sorry I don’t know why I keep saying she.
>
>
>
> There are so many activities at night you could go to with a guide dog.
> I would walk to the theater and see live plays. My dogs were always
> welcomed. They would even tell me if there were going to be loud
> noises or people running up and down the aisles. Then we would walk
> the several blocks home confidently and safely.
>
>
>
> Anyway My husband and I both have guide dogs.
>
>
>
> So you choose your path, talk to schools, talk to us, talk to
> friends in the area.
>
> Warmly,
>
> Becky and Jake
>
>
>
> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Barb
> breuer via nagdu
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 10:50 AM
> To: Full Name
> Subject: [nagdu] (no subject)
>
>
>
> I have been doing a lot of thinking sence I started looking into
> getting I guide dog. Like do I need one, will it be a help to me, or
> can I get around well enough on my own. Plus do I have to much vision
> to qualify.
> I have a good amount of vision for a blind person. My mother went
> to a school for the blind, and didn't want her kids to go to one. She
> wanted us to learn to use the sight we had.
> So now I feel like, I can do these things, cross the street, walk
> without a cane, find my way.
> I have had people I know ask why do you need a guide dog? My
> answer is because the dog would help me at night when I don't see so
> good, and in the bright sun, plus I have thick glasses and I have little side vision.
> I get a long well at work, but I clean locker rooms for a living and
> fold towels. Not a lot of need for dog.
>
> I don't like going places that I haven't been so much because I do
> think about, will there be a step or something I don't see. I walk
> slower because of it and when I am with people I walk a step behind
> and watch where they step.
> So I feel like a dog would make my life easier, and having a
> companion with me would be nice.
> I Am in my 50's and do think about how walking a dog, people think
> twice before they want to jump you. But having a dog is a good way to
> meet new friends.
> Sorry for it being so long, I just have a lot on my mind.
> Barb
>
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