[nagdu] Flea/tic preventatives?

Sun Jul 27 18:55:46 UTC 2014

Raven,
This may be great for pet dogs who stay at home.  Not so with working guide 
dogs who go into all kinds of places.  If a dog full of fleas goes into an 
office building, it will cause a flea infestation there.

I don't like the idea of the toxins, but I am allergic to flea bites.  I 
live in San Diego where there are TONS of fleas - even in empty apartments! 
Our climate never kills fleas or ticks.

Lyn
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Raven Tolliver via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
To: "Nicole Torcolini" <ntorcolini at wavecable.com>; "NAGDU Mailing List,the 
National Association of Guide Dog Users" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 6:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nagdu] Flea/tic preventatives?

> Pest preventatives are not preventatives; they are pesticides. They
> kill bugs, they don't stop them from biting your dog, they just kill
> the insects after an attack. That even goes for the heart worm
> poisons. The poisons just kill the larvae, they don't stop your dog
> from getting heart worms. And in addition to killing the bugs, they
> are damaging to the body.
>
> Article: Your Dog And Toxic Flea And Tick Prevention
> http://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/dog-from-toxic-flea-tick-prevention/
>
> Rather than working retroactively, I find it most beneficial to
> actively repel pests altogether. Personally, I don't waste money on
> the pest poisons. I live in West michigan, where bugs are only a
> concern for about five months out of the year. And frankly, I'm not
> concerned about them.
> Back when I started feeding raw, I decided I would naturally rear my
> dog altogether. No processed foods or allopathic
> medicine, toxic pest prevention or grooming chemicals, heavy
> metal-laden water , and no more toxic household products. I threw out
> the Vectra 3d and Heart Guard right away.
> It was winter, and I didn't know how I would deal with pest
> prevention. But I had 4 months to research that. In my research, a
> fellow natural-rearer raised the question Why are you afraid of bugs?
> Why are you focusing on preventing sickness? If you support the immune
> system, there will not be any bugs or sicknesses to worry about. She
> said to stop being afraid, to trust the laws of natural health, and to
> give the immune system the credit it deserves and allow it to work the
> way it is supposed to. So that is what I do. I put into practice the 8
> laws of natural health, and my dog is pest and parasite-free. When
> Spring first hit, I would rub essential oils on, or rub him down with
> coconut oil, or spray him down with cider vinegar. But he hated all of
> that except the coconut oil. Whenever I added anything strong-smelling
> to his coat, he would go into a fit of trying to rub the smell off on
> the carpet and furniture. He obviously didn't enjoy the treatment, so
> I stopped. Why put him through unnecessary distress?
> I decided to just stop being afraid of bugs, support my dog's immune
> system, and trust mother nature. The Golden Guy is an earth dog,
> believe me. He loves rolling in the grass, digging in the dirt,
> running through the woods, and swimming in the ponds and creeks. He
> does all of those things, and I have not found a single bug on him.
> If I lived in an area like the humid south, I would use a combination
> of an essential oil blend called No Bites!, food-grade DE, and neem
> oil to repel pests. Obviously, those things must be applied pretty
> much every time you step outside, or every 8 hours at the very least.
> But to me, that is worth keeping my dog healthy and minimizing his
> exposure to poisons.
>
>
> On 7/26/14, Nicole Torcolini via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>> Interesting. I stick with the comfortus. I do not really like the type 
>> that
>> you have to apply directly to the skin of the dog. The only problem that 
>> I
>> have had with comfortus is that it occasionally makes Lexia sick to her
>> stomach, but I reduce the chances of that by giving her pepcid when I 
>> give
>> her comfortus and not doing any high level activities afterwards.
>>
>> Nicole and Lexia
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of The Pawpower
>> Pack
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 3:49 PM
>> To: Daryl Marie; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users
>> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Flea/tic preventatives?
>>
>> Hi Daryl,
>> I live in New Orleans which is basically, the swamp.  ideally I would 
>> like
>> to use natural methods but unless you want to spend hours a day, picking
>> fleas, and dealing with the yard, then we give flea preventive. Heart 
>> Worm
>> preventive too.
>> My dogs take ivermectin which is meant for livestock. This is because I
>> have
>> several dogs and it's cheaper plus the beef flavored stuff is lost on my
>> dogs who hate it.
>> As for flea preventive, I rotate, one month I use frontline, the next
>> advantage, and the next comfortus so my dogs never get the same thing,
>> thereby hoping to not make the fleas resistent to any drug.  Sometimes I
>> give the same kind 2 months in a row, but not usually.
>> Good luck!
>>
>>  Rox and the kitchen Bitches:
>> Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
>> Pawpower4me at gmail.com
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Jul 26, 2014, at 4:41 PM, Daryl Marie via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi!
>>> I am going to be taking Jenny for her yearly vet checkup next week, and
>>> am
>> considering speaking to my vet about flea and tic preventatives.
>>> I know this is important, and money should not be my sole concern, but
>>> she
>> is on Revolution, which totals considerably more per month than either
>> Advantix or Advantage.
>>> Has anyone used ay of these? Made a switch from one to another?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Daryl
>>>
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