[nagdu] Physical therapy

Sat Jun 7 15:29:04 UTC 2014

Hi Dan, 
I had 3 months of pt for vestibular disease, where I basically had to learn to walk again.  This was about 4 years ago.  My dog always came with me, and either lay down, or helped with the pt since one of the goals was working together on her helping me stay upright.  
If your dog does not keep a down stay well, you may have to use his lead to hook around a chair or something to keep him where he needs to be. 
Good luck! 

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Mill'E, Laveau, Soleil
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> On Jun 7, 2014, at 8:52 AM, Tracy Carcione via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
> 
> Hi Dan.
> I've had PT a couple times for shoulder injuries.  Ben just lay on the side in the therapy room, waiting for me to finish.  Ben is very good at lying where I tell him to while I move around.  He does it at the gym, and during my ballroom dancing class, so he gets plenty of practice.  In the beginning, I took a jacket or his mutt mat for him to lie on, as a thing to mark his spot.  Now, he just flops down and stays whereever.
> Good luck with healing.
> Tracy
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dan Weiner via nagdu" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> To: "'Raven Tolliver'" <ravend729 at gmail.com>; "'NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users'" <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 3:51 PM
> Subject: Re: [nagdu] Physical therapy
> 
> 
>> Well, Jessica I'm sorry about your broken ankle and I hope you will get
>> better really soon and meanwhile we'll write a lot of stuff so you'll have
>> plenty to read--smile
>> .
>> Now here is a question.
>> I have a torn ligament in my ankle, actually it tore about 20 years ago but
>> it keeps bothering me so I'll be going to physical therapy, anyone taken
>> their dogs to physical therapy?
>> I won't have access issues at all that's not my concern, wit's what you do
>> with your dog while you do the exercises and such, just having him on leash
>> beside you  or maybe secure the pup somewhere close by, what are peoples'
>> experiences?
>> 
>> Or is this one of those places where it is preferable not to have a dog,
>> I'll basically be doing thins like, holding on to a pole and balancing and
>> practicing steps and strengthening my ankle  and so on.
>> It's apparently either that or surgery down the road so I want to be serious
>> about getting it done.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sincerely,
>> 
>> Dan the man, Parker the hound dog
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Raven Tolliver
>> via nagdu
>> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2014 3:42 PM
>> To: Marsha Drenth; NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog
>> Users
>> Subject: Physical therapy
>> 
>> Jessica,
>> Your dog losing her training should not even be a concern. That undoing
>> would take 12+ months, if not years.
>> Build your bond through playing with your dog, massaging her, treating her
>> randomly throughout the day for simple good behaviors like laying down
>> quietly, and just having what I call a "pat and chat," where you sit with
>> your dog, pet them and talk to them. I don't know if other schools emphasize
>> this, but at GEB, they always told us the key to strengthening our bond in
>> the beginning was ensuring that all good things come from you. Food, treats,
>> playtime, petting, all come from you or at least are given in your presence
>> to make certain that your dog understands that good things happen when you
>> are around and to esteem you above others as the [primary source of good
>> things. I like this teaching because it doesn't give rise or even appeal to
>> being alpha, dominant, or controlling over a dog, but instead establishes
>> you as leader through your status as the provider and caregiver, in addition
>> to giving guidance and direction while working.
>> 
>> Off leash recall is one of my favorite things to train. Personally, I use
>> toys to train a dog for this, provided the dog is play-motivated.
>> I start by just squeaking or crinkling a familiar toy while the dog and I
>> are in a quiet room, no words, just that unmistakable sound. The dog comes
>> every time, and I click and praise the dog excessively,slipping him a few
>> treats. If the dog reliably responds to the toy after a few times, I start
>> introducing a verbal cue "here" or "come," after the sound has captured
>> their attention. Eventually, I fade the toy out, using it every other time I
>> give the cue, then every second or third time, and so on until I can get the
>> dog to come to me without the toy at all. Then, I start working on
>> distraction level and distance. We start with just across the room, then we
>> move into a hallway, then a yard, with varying levels of distractions from
>> other people, dogs and so on in order to ensure that the dog will come no
>> matter what, or at least 8 or 9 times out of 10.
>> Set the dog up for success by moving backward at any point in this process
>> if the dog is hesitant or doesn't obey reliably when moving to the next
>> step. Some people just expect that the dog should be able to generalize
>> easily and so there's no need to go back to the basics in order to truly
>> move forward, when this is not always true for every dog, especially in the
>> face of distractions. Some dogs pick up on this incredibly quickly. Others
>> take longer to get this skill down pact,while others never truly master the
>> off-leash recall.
>> Good luck, and heal up soon.
>> 
>> 
>>> On 6/5/14, Marsha Drenth via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>>> hi Jessica,
>>> Sorry to hear about your ankle. I totally understand, as I am dealing
>>> with a broken rest myself. I hope things start to heal. And that you
>>> can start set work your dog very soon. Please keep us updated on how
>> things are going.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Marsha drenth
>>> email: marsha.drenth at gmail.com
>>> Sent with my IPhone
>>> Please note that this email communication has been sent using my
>>> iPhone. As such, I may have used dictation and had made attempts to
>> mitigate errors.
>>> Please do not be hesitant to ask for clarification as necessary.
>>> 
>>>> On Jun 3, 2014, at 10:39 PM, Jessica Roberts via nagdu
>>>> <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi all,
>>>> Its been a while since I've written.
>>>> I came home with Garbo my female yellow lab on April 10th.
>>>> She is such a wonderful dog and I can't believe we've been home for
>>>> almost 2 months.
>>>> We got back into the swing of things and she does routes like she has
>>>> always done  them.
>>>> She amazes me.
>>>> Unfortunately, about a week and a half or 2 weeks after I got home I
>>>> got very, very sick, pneumonia type sick.
>>>> Just as I was getting over that on May 8th, I was walking my son to
>>>> daycare int eh early morning, my husband behind me.
>>>> My back was hurting as it sometimes does, and I was jsut not doign
>>>> well, my body was jsut tired from being so sick.
>>>> I thought we were at a poitn in our route wehre you have to step back
>>>> and allow the dog ot go in front of you and follow her to the right,
>>>> so I did that, and accidentally stepped too far, was not at the right
>>>> spot, my mistake completely, and fell off a 1 and a half foot drop
>>>> intot he street.
>>>> My girl came to me, even though I dropped the handle, and licked my
>>>> face, whining, she thought it was her fault and it wasn't.
>>>> I cralwed on teh sidewalk, and cried, it hurt so incredibly much.
>>>> Somehow I got back up and somehow leaning on her and my husband got
>>>> Noah to daycare.
>>>> I then got on a bus, you see I was on teh way to take my biology final.
>>>> However the pain got worse and worse and I was about to puke on the
>>>> bus, so when we got to the transfer point we got off and got a cab to
>>>> the hospital.
>>>> The exrays were inconclusive.
>>>> It was so swollen they couldn't see.
>>>> The next week I went to the ortopedic, and they did more exrays, and
>>>> sure enough there was a hairline fracture, along with tendon damage
>>>> and swelling on and around the bones.
>>>> They put me in a brace that goes on my foot and all the way to my
>>>> knee, it keeps the ankel still, and I use crutches or a cane,
>>>> depending.
>>>> Up until yesterday my husband has been feeding, relieving, etc. Garbo
>>>> because I simply couldn't, and still can't to a large degree but have
>>>> started while holding onto him takign ehr out once a day to workon
>>>> our bond.
>>>> She still listens well to me, I'm just hopign she wont' have lost her
>>>> training when I can work her once more.
>>>> TSE said they'd send an instructor and a balance handle out to me
>>>> once I'm healed more.
>>>> She is such a tropper just lying quietly and playing sometimes
>>>> thorugh all this.
>>>> Does anyone have recommendations of things I can do with her to work
>>>> on our bond or to make sure her guide work doesn't go away?
>>>> Also does anyone have tips for practicing off leash recall and being
>>>> able to enforce it, she comes to me sometimes but only when she wants
>>>> to and that's frustrating.
>>>> Thanks so much and sorry for the rambling.
>>>> Jessica
>>>> 
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