[nagdu] relieving at airports was Denver airport

Tue Jun 10 19:39:12 UTC 2014

 Hi All:

Bogart and I fly qutie often and I agree with everything Michael was saying.  With bogart i stop food 12 hours before flying and water about 6 hours if the flight is over 3 hours. Even on my flight  to London England he didn't seem to have any problems. Once I got him outside and he went pee I made sure he got some water.  If I can I try to get him a run in before heading on long trips. This can be managed at my end but usually doesn't work out  in the place  I'm visiting. I know that Bogart often goes 12 hours without going out over night so I don't worry about flights.  We took a look at the relieving room in the San Diego airport and bogart was having nothing to do with any of that. Bogart is a grass reliever so you can imagine the issues we had  walking around down town London where ther just isn't much grass. He finally dragged me to a tree coming out of a grate and let loose a great deal of liquid.  I do worry about him when  we travel, especially when there are delays but it
is more my anxiety than his discomfort.

Cheers
Gary

PS: don't know why the previous message sent before it was done being typed. Not so smart phones. :)  

On May 28, 2014 7:19:02 PM PDT, Michael Hingson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org> wrote:
>Hi Kristen and all,
>
>Go in a regular bathroom?  It does sounds as if someone in Denver needs
>some
>educating.
>
>It is not the responsibility of anyone else to take your dog outside to
>relieve.  One possible option would be to take you outside inside the
>security area, but there may or may not be people to do this, and the
>kind
>of area on which your dog is use to relieving may not be available.
>
>I think it is appropriate to make one additional observation.  In my
>experience most guide dog schools discuss preparing to take a dog on a
>trip.
>We discuss with instructors how to cut down on water before traveling. 
>We
>are also told that it might be wise to not give our dogs a meal before
>traveling if the dog is prone to needing to relieve.  All this is to
>say
>that with proper preparation a healthy dog should be able to go six to
>eight
>hours without relieving.
>
>We can make life more stressful by assuming that our dogs need to go
>out at
>every stop.  By doing this the dogs come to expect the trip out and we
>get
>upset when we can't take our dogs outside to relieve.  I have taken
>several
>guide dogs on long trips without any need to relieve, but I worked to
>train
>the dogs to expect this and I helped by insuring that their bladders
>and
>other parts were as empty as possible before leaving home or by taking
>advantage of a relieving area at the airport before going through
>Security.
>
>As one instructor put it to me once, "keep in mind that your dogs sleep
>through the night and so they can go long periods of time without
>relieving
>if you set the stage".  Let me be clear.  Some dogs may have health
>issues
>and do need to relieve more often.  However, the average dog can go for
>fairly long to very long times without the need to relieve.  I have
>taken
>dogs to New Zealand, Korea, Japan and the Netherlands without any stop
>to
>relieve. I travel across the United States several times a month and
>never
>look for a relief area during a lay-over except to know where they are
>if
>available in case of a future emergency.
>
>You must do your part and you must instill confidence in the dog and
>yourself, but it can be done.  I hope my thoughts help. 
>
>
>Best,
>
>
>Michael Hingson
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristen via
>nagdu
>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 02:12 PM
>To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Denver airport
>
>I did have an issue with that airport about a month ago. We had a
>layover
>there, and they told us that we wouldn't be able to get past security
>after
>taking Corvette outside (they had no inside
>area) and have time to make our flight. They also didn't offer to take
>him
>out for me and said that he should hold it or be able to go in a
>regular
>bathroom. (He did end up holding it for about 6 hours that day.) Maybe
>you'll have better luck!
>--
>Kristen
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: sheila via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
><nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Wed, 28 May 2014 14:34:36 -0600
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Denver airport
>
>okay that is good. I won't borrow trouble. I've never had trouble in
>other
>airports so I'll assume that I won't and just handle things if they
>come up.
>On 5/28/2014 2:06 PM, Sherry Gomes via nagdu wrote:
>I just flew in and out of Denver when I went to and returned from GDB.
>I
>was  never put in any separate sort of room. I had some trouble with
>ground
>assistance on the return but that was only with one person.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sheila via
>nagdu
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] denver airport
>
>                   denver airport        has anyone had any 
>trouble when
>flying out of the denver airport as far as being put is a separate room
>instead of near or at the departing gate?
>
>
>--
>
>sheila leigland
>
>
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