[nagdu] relieving at airports was Denver airport

Wed Jun 11 02:36:44 UTC 2014

Lexia is also a grass reliever. Once, I took her to the indoor relieving
room at the Seatac Airport, but, she, too, would have nothing to do with it.
If I remember correctly, the outdoor area at the Mineta San José
International-Silicon Valley Airport is fake grass, but it was not really an
issue as it smelled enough from other dogs having done their business.
	The flight that I take the most is from San Jose to Seatac, which is
not that long. I get up early enough for Lexia to have two opportunities to
relieve before departing for the airport, and I don't let her drink
immediately after the second time. I sometimes move her lunch a little
later, depending on the time of the flight. Just before getting on the
airplane, when I am doing my business for the last time, I give Lexia a
*tiny* bit of water. As soon as I land in Seatac, I take her out, and she
usually does everything, but that is more from the excitement of seeing my
parents than from having to hold it. As a side note, one way to help avoid
accidents is to know what can make your dog need to go more.

Nicole and Lexia the frequent flyer

-----Original Message-----
From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Gary Steeves via
nagdu
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2014 12:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [nagdu] relieving at airports was Denver airport

 Hi All:

Bogart and I fly qutie often and I agree with everything Michael was saying.
With bogart i stop food 12 hours before flying and water about 6 hours if
the flight is over 3 hours. Even on my flight  to London England he didn't
seem to have any problems. Once I got him outside and he went pee I made
sure he got some water.  If I can I try to get him a run in before heading
on long trips. This can be managed at my end but usually doesn't work out
in the place  I'm visiting. I know that Bogart often goes 12 hours without
going out over night so I don't worry about flights.  We took a look at the
relieving room in the San Diego airport and bogart was having nothing to do
with any of that. Bogart is a grass reliever so you can imagine the issues
we had  walking around down town London where ther just isn't much grass. He
finally dragged me to a tree coming out of a grate and let loose a great
deal of liquid.  I do worry about him when  we travel, especially when there
are delays but it is more my anxiety than his discomfort.

Cheers
Gary

PS: don't know why the previous message sent before it was done being typed.
Not so smart phones. :)  

On May 28, 2014 7:19:02 PM PDT, Michael Hingson via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org>
wrote:
>Hi Kristen and all,
>
>Go in a regular bathroom?  It does sounds as if someone in Denver needs 
>some educating.
>
>It is not the responsibility of anyone else to take your dog outside to 
>relieve.  One possible option would be to take you outside inside the 
>security area, but there may or may not be people to do this, and the 
>kind of area on which your dog is use to relieving may not be 
>available.
>
>I think it is appropriate to make one additional observation.  In my 
>experience most guide dog schools discuss preparing to take a dog on a 
>trip.
>We discuss with instructors how to cut down on water before traveling. 
>We
>are also told that it might be wise to not give our dogs a meal before 
>traveling if the dog is prone to needing to relieve.  All this is to 
>say that with proper preparation a healthy dog should be able to go six 
>to eight hours without relieving.
>
>We can make life more stressful by assuming that our dogs need to go 
>out at every stop.  By doing this the dogs come to expect the trip out 
>and we get upset when we can't take our dogs outside to relieve.  I 
>have taken several guide dogs on long trips without any need to 
>relieve, but I worked to train the dogs to expect this and I helped by 
>insuring that their bladders and other parts were as empty as possible 
>before leaving home or by taking advantage of a relieving area at the 
>airport before going through Security.
>
>As one instructor put it to me once, "keep in mind that your dogs sleep 
>through the night and so they can go long periods of time without 
>relieving if you set the stage".  Let me be clear.  Some dogs may have 
>health issues and do need to relieve more often.  However, the average 
>dog can go for fairly long to very long times without the need to 
>relieve.  I have taken dogs to New Zealand, Korea, Japan and the 
>Netherlands without any stop to relieve. I travel across the United 
>States several times a month and never look for a relief area during a 
>lay-over except to know where they are if available in case of a future 
>emergency.
>
>You must do your part and you must instill confidence in the dog and 
>yourself, but it can be done.  I hope my thoughts help.
>
>
>Best,
>
>
>Michael Hingson
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of Kristen via 
>nagdu
>Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 02:12 PM
>To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Denver airport
>
>I did have an issue with that airport about a month ago. We had a 
>layover there, and they told us that we wouldn't be able to get past 
>security after taking Corvette outside (they had no inside
>area) and have time to make our flight. They also didn't offer to take 
>him out for me and said that he should hold it or be able to go in a 
>regular bathroom. (He did end up holding it for about 6 hours that 
>day.) Maybe you'll have better luck!
>--
>Kristen
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: sheila via nagdu <nagdu at nfbnet.org
>To: "NAGDU Mailing List,the National Association of Guide Dog Users"
><nagdu at nfbnet.org Date sent: Wed, 28 May 2014 14:34:36 -0600
>Subject: Re: [nagdu] Denver airport
>
>okay that is good. I won't borrow trouble. I've never had trouble in 
>other airports so I'll assume that I won't and just handle things if 
>they come up.
>On 5/28/2014 2:06 PM, Sherry Gomes via nagdu wrote:
>I just flew in and out of Denver when I went to and returned from GDB.
>I
>was  never put in any separate sort of room. I had some trouble with 
>ground assistance on the return but that was only with one person.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
>From: nagdu [mailto:nagdu-bounces at nfbnet.org] On Behalf Of sheila via 
>nagdu
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 1:45 PM
> To: NAGDU Mailing List, the National Association of Guide Dog Users
> Subject: [nagdu] denver airport
>
>                   denver airport        has anyone had any 
>trouble when
>flying out of the denver airport as far as being put is a separate room 
>instead of near or at the departing gate?
>
>
>--
>
>sheila leigland
>
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